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View Poll Results: 18 man final table approximates closely to 9 man STT?
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235 34.92%
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25 3.71%

11-27-2010 , 07:19 AM
Readless, snap get it in?


Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): t2135 35.58 BBs
BB: t1020 17 BBs
UTG: t1398 23.30 BBs
UTG+1: t3140 52.33 BBs
MP: t4847 80.78 BBs
CO: t1420 23.67 BBs
BTN: t1580 26.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is SB with Q Q
2 folds, MP raises to t210, 1 fold, BTN raises to t360, Hero,
11-27-2010 , 07:44 AM
@ Mela: For me this is a fold. Wait for a better spot later in the tournament. We have a far bigger edge there. These droolers mostly call unless they have something. Kx and Ax are the nuts you know?
11-27-2010 , 07:45 AM
@ Mela hand 2: Yeah snapshove
11-27-2010 , 02:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHENGPOKER
I've been playing tons of $16 turbos building my Stars roll (mainly FTP) and I find the $16 / 18 mans a complete joke... anyone feel the same way? I think I have a 25% ROI or something..

I have 50 buy ins for the next level $27s... how is the level there? Any $27 regs here??
25% is not sustainable
11-27-2010 , 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdawg91
25% is not sustainable
Not even close to sustainable IMO. Seems like the regs in these are like 7-10%.
11-27-2010 , 02:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by robhimself
Not even close to sustainable IMO. Seems like the regs in these are like 7-10%.
Yea most regs are in that range. The good regs like reasons14 are like 11-14%. Havent seen anything higher than that over a large sample.
11-27-2010 , 06:27 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em
$4.40 Tournament
200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (8 handed)
25 Players Remaining. Pays out to top 15.

Button (t25395)
SB (t11770)
BB (t5689)
Hero (UTG) (t9657)
UTG+1 (t15493)
MP1 (t7930)
MP2 (t10780)
CO (t10702)

Hero's M: 9.66

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets t800, 1 fold, MP1 calls t800, 2 folds, Button calls t800, 1 fold, BB raises to t5639 (All-In), Hero???
11-27-2010 , 06:30 PM
I've been trying to analyse my push/fold play around the money bubble and found this hand in my database. Thoughts on this RUSH spot?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em
$4.40 RUSH Tournament
135 Entries
200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (7 handed)
21 Players Remaining
Tournament Pays Out to Top 15

Button (t9403)
SB (t8278)
Hero (BB) (t4369)
UTG (t8857)
MP1 (t9724)
MP2 (t7583)
CO (t9205)

Hero's M: 4.60

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ac7h
5 folds, SB bets t800, Hero raises to t4319 and is ALL-IN
11-27-2010 , 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebenCA
I've been trying to analyse my push/fold play around the money bubble and found this hand in my database. Thoughts on this RUSH spot?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em
$4.40 RUSH Tournament
135 Entries
200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (7 handed)
21 Players Remaining
Tournament Pays Out to Top 15

Button (t9403)
SB (t8278)
Hero (BB) (t4369)
UTG (t8857)
MP1 (t9724)
MP2 (t7583)
CO (t9205)

Hero's M: 4.60

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ac7h
5 folds, SB bets t800, Hero raises to t4319 and is ALL-IN
wp.,..
11-27-2010 , 10:00 PM
in the superstack 15k$ guarantee on ftp, i feel like this hand was poorly played and that it should've been a snap call by myself but for some reason i just couldn't do it (someone has a piece of me etc), for future reference this should be a snap call correct? also before the squeeze (what i think) should i have squeezed myself? kinda new to mtts just thought id try it out since i was staked

Full Tilt Poker Super Stack $15K Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t80/t160 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG+1: t8921 55.76 BBs
UTG+2: t25400 158.75 BBs
MP1: t15990 99.94 BBs
MP2: t1769 11.06 BBs
Hero (CO): t9986 62.41 BBs
BTN: t2100 13.12 BBs
SB: t4405 27.53 BBs
BB: t5584 34.90 BBs
UTG: t14000 87.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is CO with 9 9
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t160, UTG+2 calls t160, 2 folds, Hero calls t160, BTN calls t160, SB raises to t4405 all in, 3 folds, Hero requests TIME, ???
11-27-2010 , 10:09 PM
the guys shoving like 30 bbs, unless you have reason to believe hes randomly spewing, i fold
11-27-2010 , 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdawg91
the guys shoving like 30 bbs, unless you have reason to believe hes randomly spewing, i fold
This.....
11-27-2010 , 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebenCA
I've been trying to analyse my push/fold play around the money bubble and found this hand in my database. Thoughts on this RUSH spot?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em
$4.40 RUSH Tournament
135 Entries
200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (7 handed)
21 Players Remaining
Tournament Pays Out to Top 15

Button (t9403)
SB (t8278)
Hero (BB) (t4369)
UTG (t8857)
MP1 (t9724)
MP2 (t7583)
CO (t9205)

Hero's M: 4.60

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ac7h
5 folds, SB bets t800, Hero raises to t4319 and is ALL-IN
This looks fine.
11-28-2010 , 05:43 PM
Hi guys here some hands of tonight

Hero (BTN): t2765 M = 4.25
SB: t2515 M = 3.87
BB: t5625 M = 8.65
UTG: t2525 M = 3.88
UTG+1: t11970 M = 18.42
MP1: t11860 M = 18.25
MP2: t6180 M = 9.51
CO: t4110 M = 6.32

Pre Flop: (t650) Hero is BTN with Q A
UTG raises to t600, 4 folds, Hero raises to t2740 all in, 2 folds, UTG calls t1900 all in

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UTG+1: t7130 M = 11.88
Hero (UTG+2): t4135 M = 6.89
MP1: t2185 M = 3.64
MP2: t2937 M = 4.89
CO: t5875 M = 9.79
BTN: t3240 M = 5.40
SB: t1246 M = 2.08
BB: t2418 M = 4.03
UTG: t4682 M = 7.80

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is UTG+2 with Q A
2 folds, Hero raises to t550, 2 folds, CO calls t550, 2 folds, BB raises to t2393 all in, Hero raises to t4110 all in, 1 fold



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BB: t13782 M = 7.66
UTG: t4240 M = 2.36
UTG+1: t8115 M = 4.51
MP1: t8951 M = 4.97
MP2: t6924 M = 3.85
CO: t3374 M = 1.87
BTN: t1440 M = 0.80
Hero (SB): t6493 M = 3.61

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is SB with Q K
3 folds, MP2 calls t800, 2 folds, Hero raises to t6418 all in, 1 fold, MP2 calls t5618



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UTG+1: t4400 M = 3.38
MP1: t4519 M = 3.48
MP2: t4210 M = 3.24
CO: t4745 M = 3.65
BTN: t3890 M = 2.99
SB: t8524 M = 6.56
Hero (BB): t4167 M = 3.21
UTG: t5180 M = 3.98

Pre Flop: (t1300) Hero is BB with 4 A
5 folds, BTN raises to t3840 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls t3240



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CO: t4690 M = 4.47
BTN: t8068 M = 7.68
Hero (SB): t2270 M = 2.16
BB: t5090 M = 4.85
UTG: t8045 M = 7.66
UTG+1: t4850 M = 4.62
UTG+2: t5864 M = 5.58
MP1: t4785 M = 4.56
MP2: t5458 M = 5.20

Pre Flop: (t1050) Hero is SB with 6 A
UTG calls t400, 4 folds, CO calls t400, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2220 all in, 1 fold, UTG calls t1820, 1 fold



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Hero (BB): t5395 M = 3.00
UTG: t12327 M = 6.85
UTG+1: t2165 M = 1.20
MP1: t8695 M = 4.83
MP2: t7130 M = 3.96
CO: t2355 M = 1.31
BTN: t1210 M = 0.67
SB: t7978 M = 4.43

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is BB with 6 6
4 folds, CO raises to t2280 all in, BTN calls t1135 all in, SB calls t1880, Hero raises to t5320 all in, SB calls t3040



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Hero (BTN): t11880 M = 5.40
SB: t7062 M = 3.21
BB: t31090 M = 14.13
UTG: t8910 M = 4.05
UTG+1: t13792 M = 6.27
MP: t2408 M = 1.09
CO: t17063 M = 7.76

Pre Flop: (t2200) Hero is BTN with 2 A
3 folds, CO raises to t3000, Hero raises to t11780 all in, 2 folds, CO calls t8780



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MP2: t5160 M = 3.82
CO: t3175 M = 2.35
BTN: t13413 M = 9.94
Hero (SB): t14449 M = 10.70
BB: t6400 M = 4.74
UTG: t3603 M = 2.67
UTG+1: t7564 M = 5.60
UTG+2: t4270 M = 3.16
MP1: t5095 M = 3.77

Pre Flop: (t1350) Hero is SB with 6 6
4 folds, MP2 raises to t5110 all in, 2 folds, Hero raises to t9620, 1 fold




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CO: t10733 M = 5.72
BTN: t4175 M = 2.23
SB: t9963 M = 5.31
Hero (BB): t12564 M = 6.70
UTG: t4975 M = 2.65
UTG+1: t2915 M = 1.55
UTG+2: t7839 M = 4.18
MP1: t4345 M = 2.32
MP2: t8120 M = 4.33

Pre Flop: (t1875) Hero is BB with A J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t800, 5 folds, SB raises to t9888 all in, Hero raises to t12489 all in, UTG+1 calls t2040 all in




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UTG: t15200 M = 3.62
MP: t48789 M = 11.62
CO: t38216 M = 9.10
BTN: t10384 M = 2.47
Hero (SB): t47889 M = 11.40
BB: t13192 M = 3.14

Pre Flop: (t4200) Hero is SB with A T
2 folds, CO raises to t4599, 1 fold, Hero raises to t47689 all in, 1 fold, CO calls t33417 all in




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BB: t16900 M = 2.82
UTG: t41489 M = 6.91
CO: t88910 M = 14.82
BTN: t8125 M = 1.35
Hero (SB): t18246 M = 3.04

Pre Flop: (t6000) Hero is SB with Q 7
UTG calls t3000, 2 folds, Hero raises to t17946 all in, 1 fold, UTG calls t14946




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MP: t6460 M = 3.74
CO: t7020 M = 4.07
Hero (BTN): t7194 M = 4.17
SB: t12485 M = 7.24
BB: t16277 M = 9.44
UTG: t6330 M = 3.67
UTG+1: t6307 M = 3.66

Pre Flop: (t1725) Hero is BTN with K 7
3 folds, CO calls t800, Hero raises to t7119 all in, 2 folds, CO calls t6145 all in




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UTG: t36840 M = 8.77
MP: t19504 M = 4.64
CO: t15658 M = 3.73
BTN: t32444 M = 7.72
SB: t28504 M = 6.79
Hero (BB): t31217 M = 7.43

Pre Flop: (t4200) Hero is BB with A 5
2 folds, CO raises to t15458 all in, 2 folds, Hero calls t13458

Last edited by fragnfuchs; 11-28-2010 at 05:53 PM.
11-28-2010 , 06:11 PM
good thing we know the blinds/what game

Last edited by slayerv1fan; 11-28-2010 at 06:11 PM. Reason: oh wait
11-28-2010 , 06:55 PM
sorry
all games are 2.20 180 turbomen...
blinds are not necessesary in most of these hands!

next time i add the blinds

sorry
11-28-2010 , 09:31 PM
how are blinds not necessary?
11-28-2010 , 09:38 PM
Is it okay to shove here? Maybe just limp/fold or raise/fold is better?


Full Tilt Poker $24 + $2 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120/t240 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP2: t580 M = 1.04
CO: t3810 M = 6.80
BTN: t5270 M = 9.41
Hero (SB): t7705 M = 13.76
BB: t2665 M = 4.76
UTG: t3915 M = 6.99
UTG+1: t3460 M = 6.18
MP1: t3460 M = 6.18

Pre Flop: (t560) Hero is SB with 7 K
6 folds, Hero
11-28-2010 , 10:33 PM
what roi do solid regs get for the $5 18/27 mans?
11-28-2010 , 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mela
Is it okay to shove here? Maybe just limp/fold or raise/fold is better?


Full Tilt Poker $24 + $2 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120/t240 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP2: t580 M = 1.04
CO: t3810 M = 6.80
BTN: t5270 M = 9.41
Hero (SB): t7705 M = 13.76
BB: t2665 M = 4.76
UTG: t3915 M = 6.99
UTG+1: t3460 M = 6.18
MP1: t3460 M = 6.18

Pre Flop: (t560) Hero is SB with 7 K
6 folds, Hero
i think shoving is best. limp/call and raise/fold imo is just burning money.
11-29-2010 , 10:26 AM
Few hands in question:

Hand 1. I guess our stacks are a bit deep for this to be a shove, but I don't like other options. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: t1430 14.30 BBs
Hero (SB): t1730 17.30 BBs
BB: t1970 19.70 BBs
UTG: t2640 26.40 BBs
UTG+1: t1145 11.45 BBs
UTG+2: t3670 36.70 BBs
MP1: t1320 13.20 BBs
MP2: t1230 12.30 BBs
CO: t2795 27.95 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is SB with 9 A
7 folds, Hero raises to t1730 all in


Hand 2. We're all in the money ($10+1 45max). I don't think I have that much FE when SB (chipleader) pushes into me, and there are many short stacks on the table.. So can anybody find a flat here or something like that?

Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds - 6 players
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SB: t30536 30.54 BBs
Hero (BB): t8595 8.60 BBs
UTG: t3070 3.07 BBs
MP: t14706 14.71 BBs
CO: t7161 7.16 BBs
BTN: t3432 3.43 BBs

Pre Flop: (t1500) Hero is BB with A 5
4 folds, SB raises to t3000, Hero raises to t8595 all in, SB calls t5595


Hand 3. This is the FT of $12+1 KO 90max. I thought this has to be snap shove, but maybe not ICM wise?


Full Tilt Poker $12 + $1 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t250 - 5 players
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BTN: t24066 M = 5.66
SB: t148778 M = 35.01
Hero (BB): t27254 M = 6.41
UTG: t17618 M = 4.15
CO: t52284 M = 12.30

Pre Flop: (t4250) Hero is BB with A J
1 fold, CO raises to t6000, 2 folds, Hero raises to t27004 all in, CO calls t21004
11-29-2010 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LebreMan
how are blinds not necessary?
sorry,
i meant that the M or the calls of the villians show what the BB is.
blinds are obv necessary


any opinions to my hands???
11-29-2010 , 11:05 AM
@mela

shove or r/c, vs competent r/c, vs donks shove
call
shove for sure as one of the shorter stacks
11-29-2010 , 11:38 AM
Furo, in hand 2 what is our plan on the flop? Mostly fit/fold if he donks into us, and check behind most flops I guess?
11-29-2010 , 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fragnfuchs
sorry,
i meant that the M or the calls of the villians show what the BB is.
blinds are obv necessary


any opinions to my hands???
Here are some comments on 5 of the first 6 hands are. I ran out of time, and it really is a pain trying to figure out which level each hand is on.

1. (AQs 150/300/25) You'll risk 2,500 to win 3,150 chips, so you'll need 44.2% equity to justify calling. Hero has 42.9% equity against 55+, AQs+, AJo+. If you think villain plays that range or looser, call.
2. (AQo 125/250/25) The shove is clearly right to isolate BB. BB would have to be some uber-nit playing QQ+, AK to justify folding getting 2.57:1.
3. (KQo 400/800/75) These shoves make a lot of money when villain blunders and limps.
3. (A4s 300/600/50) Call against most villains, but if villain is some 40/6 drooler, you're never ahead here.
4. (A6o 200/400/50?) See Hand #3
6. (A2s 500/1k/100) Entirely read based. Don't expect any fold equity, so this is mostly a fold unless villain is raising a lot of Kx, Qx, and worse to make up for all the Ax and pairs he'd also raise.

      
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