thanks alot for teh maf.

sopo

pretty cool analysis. The one thing i will say is how often the spite call is exectued with K8, A2, Q10 etc at these levels (from what ive seen so far....)

Also, do we not play chip neutral spots a little diff at the non turbos than the turbos because you get more opportunities at better spots given the longer structure (i could be levelling myself here though!)

Getting called loose isn't that much of a disaster. Sure it's unpleasant and a little embarrassing to get called by QTo when Hero has J2s, but Hero will have more equity when pushing with hands like KJ, and a lot more equity when pushing with a good hand. (KJo makes 877 chips vs. the 50% open/25% call range and 919 chips from the 50% open/30% call range from above.)

Edit to add: If I throw the hand into SnGWiz, it suggests shoving ATC against 50% open/20% call, shoving 77% against 50% open/25% call, shoving 41% vs. 50%/20%, down to 25% vs. 40%-50% call. Hero's EV is mostly dependent more on how often he folds vs. how often he opens; Hero can still shove ATC vs. 30%/12% and 64% against 30%/15%.

If a decision is profitable, you should make it (imo). Even if you'd bust from this tournament, there will be more opportunities in the next tournament that starts in 5 minutes. Plus, if you end up winning the hand, future opportunities in the current tournament could be worth more compared to passing because you have more chips to invest.

Toughest final three in any 4.40 ??

Played around with ranges in wiz - not +$EV shove under any reasonable ranges.

About a break even cEV shove if,

BTN opens arbitrarily wide and calls you shove with JJ+,AK

SB 3bets about 12% (or wider obv) and calls TT+,AQs+ (4.6%). Ratio just about holds true if he calls wider - you basically need him to fold 60ish% of the time.


Problem is that calling hands have you ****ed. Its a shove id probably make but maybe no good ??

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 9 players
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BTN: t6038 30.19 BBs
SB: t1387 6.93 BBs
BB: t4944 24.72 BBs
Hero (UTG): t1353 6.76 BBs
UTG+1: t3055 15.28 BBs
UTG+2: t2400 12 BBs
MP1: t7707 38.53 BBs
MP2: t4888 24.44 BBs
CO: t13256 66.28 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG with J T
Hero raises to t1353 all in, 5 folds, BTN raises to t6038 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t3006) 4 5 T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t3006) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t3006) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

PokerStars Game #52060648729: Tournament #327393151, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/11/02 18:32:07 EET [2010/11/02 12:32:07 ET]
Table '327393151 19' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: peacez09 (3705 in chips)
Seat 2: alex-murka (3492 in chips)
Seat 3: pgreenhill (1900 in chips)
Seat 4: Uselis (1707 in chips)
Seat 5: zZzlou (2015 in chips)
Seat 6: Ventilatorrr (4109 in chips)
Seat 7: Vaspal (3610 in chips)
Seat 8: EdiFX (12085 in chips)
Seat 9: godarenco (5985 in chips)
zZzlou: posts small blind 75
Ventilatorrr: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Uselis [4h Ah]
Vaspal: folds
EdiFX: folds
godarenco: folds
peacez09: folds
alex-murka: folds
pgreenhill: folds
Uselis: raises 1557 to 1707 and is all-in
zZzlou: raises 308 to 2015 and is all-in
Ventilatorrr: folds
Uncalled bet (308) returned to zZzlou
*** FLOP *** [2d Qh As]
*** TURN *** [2d Qh As] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [2d Qh As Th] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zZzlou: shows [Ac Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)
Uselis: shows [4h Ah] (a pair of Aces)
zZzlou collected 3564 from pot
Uselis finished the tournament in 60th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3564 | Rake 0
Board [2d Qh As Th 6d]
Seat 1: peacez09 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: alex-murka folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pgreenhill folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Uselis (button) showed [4h Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: zZzlou (small blind) showed [Ac Ad] and won (3564) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: Ventilatorrr (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Vaspal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: EdiFX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: godarenco folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Shoving both or a bit patience?

I'd show patience there

fine shove with JTo

Shoving both

A4 from the button is a good shove.

Could go either way with JT. Slightly +cEV at best. Prob fold in a non-turbo.

Uselis - both shoves are fine imo, A4 is a lock and i don't see much wrong with the J10

Furo - A10 hand is interesting. With the sb never 3betting is egh, but then if you're wrong and he's a reg I guess there's some metagame for later as a comfort!

I've been practicing turbos, namely the 2.2 180m T to improve my shoving/opening game.

No reads on villains, first hand just got moved to table. I have a question in this hand and similar spots. Basically my question here is with 20bbs, is it standard to open or shove in these? Or are both options fine?

My reasoning pre is that I'm def. calling a reship from the other to 20+bb stacks with 99 so is it better to shove it or open small to induce a shove from a worse hand? I'd appreciate thoughts.

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 9 players - View hand 1008226
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BTN: t7290 M = 3.89
SB: t8594 M = 4.58
BB: t21270 M = 11.34
UTG: t6680 M = 3.56
Hero (UTG+1): t15047 M = 8.03
UTG+2: t18799 M = 10.03
MP1: t6802 M = 3.63
MP2: t6612 M = 3.53
CO: t4000 M = 2.13

Pre Flop: (t1875) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
1 fold, Hero ????

How relevant are these all-in EV graphs to your winrate? on the Year i have played over 7k $3 45s and I'm running over 1mill under ev and my ROI is still right around 20%



thoughts?

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 1008640
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: t1980 99 BBs
UTG+1: t1505 75.25 BBs
UTG+2: t1470 73.50 BBs
MP1: t1470 73.50 BBs
Hero (MP2): t1470 73.50 BBs
CO: t1500 75 BBs
BTN: t1470 73.50 BBs
SB: t1105 55.25 BBs
BB: t1530 76.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP2 with T T
UTG raises to t100, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t100, 1 fold, Hero calls t100, 4 folds

Flop: (t330) 7 2 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets t185, UTG calls t185, UTG+2 raises to t370, Hero calls t185, UTG folds

Turn: (t1255) 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets t400, Hero folds

Anyone play this hand differently? (was 1st or 2nd hand in a 45 man so readless)

Thanks

I tend to play TT the same way this early but i just stack off on the flop.

I'd expect it to be pretty negligible over that big of a sample size. I was running ~600k under EV over ~700 games. TwistedValor is running 1.4 mil under over 2k games.

In my example that's like I got 850 chips in with 100% equity and lost, every game for 700 games. Pretty significant when you consider that the starting stack is 1500 chips...

In your example it's like you're getting 150 chips in with 100% equity and losing. It's not going to impact your bottom line nearly as much when it's distributed over that big a span.

Also, the EV thing really doesn't tell you all that much about how you're running. It's very easily skewed by a couple suckouts deep in a tourney, and it also says nothing about coolers and running into the tops of people's ranges. (ie, you make a super +ev shove with KK from the button and BB calls with AA.... the EV calculator is going to say you're running as expected when you lose, but in fact that's pretty bad luck).

Misread the crappy hand history on my iphone earlier today. Shoving the A4, but I think I'm still folding the JT

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players
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SB: t1535 30.70 BBs
BB: t4439 88.78 BBs
Hero (UTG): t916 18.32 BBs
UTG+1: t6124 122.48 BBs
MP1: t2300 46 BBs
MP2: t2574 51.48 BBs
CO: t1186 23.72 BBs
BTN: t5907 118.14 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to t916 all in, 7 folds

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 9 players
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SB: t1870 M = 2.77
BB: t29483 M = 43.68
Hero (UTG): t5005 M = 7.41
UTG+1: t4024 M = 5.96
UTG+2: t16458 M = 24.38
MP1: t7455 M = 11.04
MP2: t31599 M = 46.81
CO: t23409 M = 34.68
BTN: t8330 M = 12.34

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to t4980 all in, 8 folds

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t50 - 7 players
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SB: t9795 M = 10.31
BB: t22793 M = 23.99
Hero (UTG): t6630 M = 6.98
UTG+1: t17325 M = 18.24
MP: t7057 M = 7.43
CO: t28331 M = 29.82
BTN: t12270 M = 12.92

Pre Flop: (t950) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to t6580 all in, 1 fold, MP raises to t7007 all in, 4 folds

Flop: (t14110) 8 4 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t14110) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t14110) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

First one blinds go up to 50/100 within 1 minute leaving me with 8BBs if I am folding it.Obv not raising since a lot of guys will flat me and its gonna be multiway pot.Those 3 shoves standard?

FT of a 2$ 180
i was the most aggro player for the whole FT villan was kinda nitty(nothing special)
what makes me want to fold is that i doubt he would ever bluff the river in this spot
or value bet QJ or something like that, what u guys think, do you shove pre?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO Hero (95k)
BTN craigers9 (102k)
SB woelfchen75 (47k)
BB victorr555 (26k)

Blinds: 2.5k/5k Ante 500

Pre-Flop: (9.5k, 4 players) Hero is CO A Q
Hero raises to 13k, craigers9 calls 13k, 2 folds

Flop: 6 3 Q (35k, 2 players)
Hero bets 18k, craigers9 calls 18k

Turn: K (71k, 2 players)
Hero checks, craigers9 bets 15k, Hero calls 15k

River: 7 (101k, 2 players)
Hero checks, craigers9 bets 56k, Hero calls 49k

I definitely just shove it pre. We're not even 20bbs deep, and post flop is going to be very awkward. As played I don't know that we can really fold.... Maybe we can cry ICM fold on the river?

yea i def should have just shoved pre especially because i was shoving pre all the time. also i think river is a "crying icm fold" as im still the 2nd biggest stack if i fold and the other players were pretty bad...also payjumps are huuuuge

The pay jump from 4th to 3rd is significant, too. Such a sucky spot that is easily avoided by just shoving. At least then we can cry cooler when he calls with AK or cry suckout when he beats us with KQ

would be great to hear some opinions about folding the river

shoving pre is my preferred option bc i dont wanna play postflop with such a short stack. min raising to induce could also be an option, depends on how the table has gone.

Are there any good 18 man strategy posts like the ones for the 180s. Over a small sample size i'm running pretty good in the 1.75s and want to get better and plug some leaks. Even if its common sense stuff anything would help. Also curious about bankroll to move up to the 3.40s and if the players are a lot better there and if the 18 mans can get you top ten for the Battle of the Planets.