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Old 07-03-2010, 04:39 PM   #76
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

Hero shoves - 11.2%, 99+ A9s+ A7s A5s-A2s AJo+ KTs+ KQo QTs+ JTs.
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:19 AM   #77
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

2.20 / 180 early on in the tourney

No reads on this sb, but the bb is running only 13/5 over 26 hands (small sample, I know)

Is this push ok, or should I wait since I've still got 13 bb's?
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+1: t1395 M = 9.30
UTG+2: t1535 M = 10.23
MP1: t6382 M = 42.55
MP2: t1890 M = 12.60
CO: t1170 M = 7.80
Hero (BTN): t1300 M = 8.67
SB: t1460 M = 9.73
BB: t710 M = 4.73
UTG: t5229 M = 34.86

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN with J T
6 folds, Hero raises to t1300 all in, 1 fold, BB calls t610 all in

Flop: (t1470) K A 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t1470) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t1470) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:22 AM   #78
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

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2.20 / 180 early on in the tourney

No reads on this sb, but the bb is running only 13/5 over 26 hands (small sample, I know)

Is this push ok, or should I wait since I've still got 13 bb's?
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UTG+1: t1395 M = 9.30
UTG+2: t1535 M = 10.23
MP1: t6382 M = 42.55
MP2: t1890 M = 12.60
CO: t1170 M = 7.80
Hero (BTN): t1300 M = 8.67
SB: t1460 M = 9.73
BB: t710 M = 4.73
UTG: t5229 M = 34.86

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN with J T
6 folds, Hero raises to t1300 all in, 1 fold, BB calls t610 all in

Flop: (t1470) K A 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t1470) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t1470) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)
ez jam
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:43 AM   #79
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

Is this an alright iso shove here?

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CO: t6600 M = 14.67
BTN: t705 M = 1.57
Hero (SB): t2990 M = 6.64
BB: t5630 M = 12.51
UTG: t1990 M = 4.42
MP: t1340 M = 2.98

Pre Flop: (t450) Hero is SB with 8 K
3 folds, BTN raises to t680 all in, Hero raises to t2965 all in, 1 fold

Flop: (t1710) 4 4 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t1710) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t1710) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:45 AM   #80
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

Lots of questions tonight, sorry.

Is this a shove?
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BB: t1700 M = 7.56
UTG: t2470 M = 10.98
UTG+1: t60 M = 0.27
MP1: t8065 M = 35.84
MP2: t4120 M = 18.31
CO: t1115 M = 4.96
Hero (BTN): t1680 M = 7.47
SB: t4074 M = 18.11

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BTN with A J
4 folds, CO raises to t300, 3 folds
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Old 07-04-2010, 01:25 AM   #81
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

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Hero (SB): t4434 M = 2.11
BB: t28136 M = 13.40
UTG: t5658 M = 2.69
MP: t2015 M = 0.96
CO: t11120 M = 5.30
BTN: t15761 M = 7.51

Pre Flop: (t2100) Hero is SB with K 7
4 folds, Hero raises to t4334 all in, 1 fold

I'm def shoving any two cards here with ~4 bb's right?
Dose it matter that he's got 20+ bb's?
What if I've got 8bb's? 15bb's?
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:21 AM   #82
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

^ All 3 are shoves for me
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:42 AM   #83
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

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12/180 ITM about 15 left

UTG+2 is 16/12/1
SB is 26/15/inf

Range for getting it in here?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4,000(BB) Replayer
SB ($54,544)
Hero ($59,181)
UTG ($41,882)
UTG+1 ($3,829)
UTG+2 ($27,853)
CO ($32,572)
BTN ($50,139)

Dealt to Hero X X

fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $27,453 (AI), fold, fold, SB calls $25,453, , Hero shoves with?
thats a final table fwiw. fold ak call with jj?
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Old 07-04-2010, 04:05 AM   #84
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

what?^^^

not folding AQs or TT - and i wanna go wider... they've got 6 bb's ffs
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

aaah misread it. This is QQ+ i think
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Old 07-04-2010, 04:36 AM   #86
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

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thats a final table fwiw. fold ak call with jj?
Couldn't remember if it was the FT or not.. I had AQo in the hand, folded and felt like a nit

Definitely getting AK in there tho.. icm be damned
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Old 07-04-2010, 01:44 PM   #87
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

FT ICM spots with ace rags offsuit.


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t75 - 5 players
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CO: t12635 M = 5.81
BTN: t14983 M = 6.89
SB: t21829 M = 10.04
BB: t9443 M = 4.34
Hero (UTG): t8610 M = 3.96

Pre Flop: (t2175) Hero is UTG with A 6
Hero raises to t8535 all in, 3 folds, BB calls t7335

Flop: (t18045) T 5 T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t18045) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t18045) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)




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BB: t13845 M = 6.37
UTG: t1199 M = 0.55
Hero (CO): t11155 M = 5.13
BTN: t25401 M = 11.68
SB: t15900 M = 7.31

Pre Flop: (t2175) Hero is CO with 8 A
1 fold, Hero raises to t11080 all in, 1 fold, SB calls t10480, BB raises to t13770 all in, SB calls t2690

Flop: (t38995) K T 9 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t38995) 3 (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t38995) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)




Hand 1 and Hand 2 are from different games.
Are they both shoves?
please give ICM some thought before posting replies. BB and SB in both hands are randoms and i do not have > than 20 hands on them so we are flying blind here.
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:04 PM   #88
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

hand 1 you're a bit light imo. tighten up a bit in that early position. you're pushing into 4 players who all cover you.


hand 2 you are light also. the UTG is about to be blinded out next hand, tighten up here.

you're spewy from early position. just remember - the more people you're pushing into, the tighter you need to be.
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:27 PM   #89
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

line check down to 3 in a 2.20 180 man, villain seems competent.


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SB: t147881 M = 13.69
Hero (BB): t61496 M = 5.69
BTN: t60623 M = 5.61

Pre Flop: (t10800) Hero is BB with 5 J
1 fold, SB calls t3000, Hero checks

Flop: (t13800) 7 Q J (2 players)
SB bets t12000, Hero raises to t54896 all in
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Old 07-04-2010, 06:00 PM   #90
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

Dont like his almost pot size bet.I would flat flop and see what he's doing on the turn,prob fold if he fires another big bet.
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Old 07-04-2010, 06:01 PM   #91
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Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t300 - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t71621 M = 14.04
BTN/SB: t198379 M = 38.90

Pre Flop: (t5100) Hero is BB with K T
BTN/SB raises to t9000, Hero raises to t27000, BTN/SB raises to t45000, Hero raises to t71321 all in, BTN/SB calls t26321

Flop: (t143242) T 5 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t143242) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t143242) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final two.What range of hands with our stack correct reshove vs villain readless?
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Old 07-04-2010, 07:41 PM   #92
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

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Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t300 - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t71621 M = 14.04
BTN/SB: t198379 M = 38.90

Pre Flop: (t5100) Hero is BB with K T
BTN/SB raises to t9000, Hero raises to t27000, BTN/SB raises to t45000, Hero raises to t71321 all in, BTN/SB calls t26321

Flop: (t143242) T 5 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t143242) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t143242) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final two.What range of hands with our stack correct reshove vs villain readless?
Just jam pre... You're not going to level him into folding anything worse
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:50 AM   #93
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

Some shove spots from 12/45's where we're far from the money and a call spot where we are in the money.

Could you say if some of these are ATC shoves also. ty.

Hand #1
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 8 players - View hand 788010
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CO: t4838 M = 6.05
Hero (BTN): t2125 M = 2.66
SB: t4750 M = 5.94
BB: t2115 M = 2.64
UTG: t7030 M = 8.79
UTG+1: t11012 M = 13.77
MP1: t4625 M = 5.78
MP2: t3855 M = 4.82

Pre Flop: (t800) Hero is BTN with 3 9
5 folds, [color=red]Hero?


Hand #2
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t50 - 7 players - View hand 788012
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BB: t8850 M = 5.71
UTG: t15007 M = 9.68 - this villain was quite aggr
UTG+1: t11847 M = 7.64
MP: t12018 M = 7.75
CO: t4158 M = 2.68
Hero (BTN): t11375 M = 7.34
SB: t4245 M = 2.74

Pre Flop: (t1550) Hero is BTN with T T
UTG raises to t14957 all in, 1 fold, MP calls t11968 all in, 1 fold, hero?


Hand #3
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 9 players - View hand 788014
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SB: t4640 M = 5.62
Hero (BB): t2913 M = 3.53
UTG: t5530 M = 6.70
UTG+1: t2395 M = 2.90
UTG+2: t2395 M = 2.90
MP1: t1988 M = 2.41
MP2: t7540 M = 9.14
CO: t5536 M = 6.71
BTN: t3215 M = 3.90

Pre Flop: (t825) Hero is BB with K 9
3 folds, MP1 raises to t1963 all in, 4 folds, hero?


Hand #4
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UTG: t5090 M = 4.07
Hero (UTG+1): t2963 M = 2.37
MP: t5260 M = 4.21
CO: t2038 M = 1.63
BTN: t6765 M = 5.41
SB: t5391 M = 4.31
BB: t3865 M = 3.09

Pre Flop: (t1250) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 Q
1 fold, [color=red]Hero?
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:50 AM   #94
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

Around 23/24 left in a $2/180

Is this a call against someone shoving every button/sb?


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CO: t8992 M = 4.09
BTN: t9080 M = 4.13
SB: t7770 M = 3.53
Hero (BB): t9825 M = 4.47
UTG: t3979 M = 1.81
UTG+1: t20880 M = 9.49
MP: t8530 M = 3.88

Pre Flop: (t2200) Hero is BB with T J
5 folds, SB raises to t7670 all in Hero???
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Re: *** Official 18 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

I have taken the liberty to widen the scope for this to include 18's and 27's. If for any reason this is unacceptable please IM me stating why and I will reverse this.

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Around 23/24 left in a $2/180

Is this a call against someone shoving every button/sb?


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CO: t8992 M = 4.09
BTN: t9080 M = 4.13
SB: t7770 M = 3.53
Hero (BB): t9825 M = 4.47
UTG: t3979 M = 1.81
UTG+1: t20880 M = 9.49
MP: t8530 M = 3.88

Pre Flop: (t2200) Hero is BB with T J
5 folds, SB raises to t7670 all in Hero???
call imo.
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

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Around 23/24 left in a $2/180

Is this a call against someone shoving every button/sb?


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CO: t8992 M = 4.09
BTN: t9080 M = 4.13
SB: t7770 M = 3.53
Hero (BB): t9825 M = 4.47
UTG: t3979 M = 1.81
UTG+1: t20880 M = 9.49
MP: t8530 M = 3.88

Pre Flop: (t2200) Hero is BB with T J
5 folds, SB raises to t7670 all in Hero???
Definitely call if he's literally shoving atc here.
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Re: *** Official 45 to 180-man SNG Thread ***

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Around 23/24 left in a $2/180

Is this a call against someone shoving every button/sb?


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t100 - 7 players
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CO: t8992 M = 4.09
BTN: t9080 M = 4.13
SB: t7770 M = 3.53
Hero (BB): t9825 M = 4.47
UTG: t3979 M = 1.81
UTG+1: t20880 M = 9.49
MP: t8530 M = 3.88

Pre Flop: (t2200) Hero is BB with T J
5 folds, SB raises to t7670 all in Hero???
fold, this is +CEV but -$EV.
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fold, this is +CEV but -$EV.
wat lol is this a level?
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Some shove spots from 12/45's where we're far from the money and a call spot where we are in the money.

Could you say if some of these are ATC shoves also. ty.

Hand #1
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CO: t4838 M = 6.05
Hero (BTN): t2125 M = 2.66
SB: t4750 M = 5.94
BB: t2115 M = 2.64
UTG: t7030 M = 8.79
UTG+1: t11012 M = 13.77
MP1: t4625 M = 5.78
MP2: t3855 M = 4.82

Pre Flop: (t800) Hero is BTN with 3 9
5 folds, [color=red]Hero?


FOLD, unless villains left to act are really bad.



Hand #2
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BB: t8850 M = 5.71
UTG: t15007 M = 9.68 - this villain was quite aggr
UTG+1: t11847 M = 7.64
MP: t12018 M = 7.75
CO: t4158 M = 2.68
Hero (BTN): t11375 M = 7.34
SB: t4245 M = 2.74

Pre Flop: (t1550) Hero is BTN with T T
UTG raises to t14957 all in, 1 fold, MP calls t11968 all in, 1 fold, hero?

EZ FOLD


Hand #3
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SB: t4640 M = 5.62
Hero (BB): t2913 M = 3.53
UTG: t5530 M = 6.70
UTG+1: t2395 M = 2.90
UTG+2: t2395 M = 2.90
MP1: t1988 M = 2.41
MP2: t7540 M = 9.14
CO: t5536 M = 6.71
BTN: t3215 M = 3.90

Pre Flop: (t825) Hero is BB with K 9
3 folds, MP1 raises to t1963 all in, 4 folds, hero?

FOLD, Unless villain is a good reg, then i think this is a call, but it'll be close. If we had more chips this is a very clear call (like 1k+ more).


Hand #4
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UTG: t5090 M = 4.07
Hero (UTG+1): t2963 M = 2.37
MP: t5260 M = 4.21
CO: t2038 M = 1.63
BTN: t6765 M = 5.41
SB: t5391 M = 4.31
BB: t3865 M = 3.09

Pre Flop: (t1250) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 Q


SHOVE

1 fold, [color=red]Hero?
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