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View Poll Results: 18 man final table approximates closely to 9 man STT?
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25 3.71%

06-27-2010 , 10:41 PM
why isnt this thread being used more? bump for everyones simple pre spots/shove orfold etc
06-28-2010 , 08:41 AM
Was this one a missed shove or a border line ? What am i pushing here ?? 77+,AJo+,ATs+ (7.5%) or is this range too nitty for this micro level???

Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t2155 M = 9.58
BTN: t1995 M = 8.87
SB: t2945 M = 13.09
BB: t1395 M = 6.20
Hero (UTG): t1515 M = 6.73
MP: t4290 M = 19.07

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG with K J
5 folds
06-28-2010 , 08:43 AM
looks like a shove goos 6 handed
06-28-2010 , 09:05 AM
yeah shove KJo there
06-28-2010 , 10:22 AM
^^^
really? chart doesnt agree or am i still not reading it correct?

KINGS
players to your left - 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

KJo - [0] [2] [2.4] [3.1] [4, 2.1, 2.6] [5.3 3 3.7] [7.6 4.6 5.7] [10 7.8 9.7] [10 10 10]
06-28-2010 , 10:31 AM
There should be more topics which talk about strategy instead of just dumping random hands and asking whether the play was good.
06-28-2010 , 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNauta
There should be more topics which talk about strategy instead of just dumping random hands and asking whether the play was good.
actually, this is what this thread is about. posting push/fold spots. you can make threads on your own for post lines
06-28-2010 , 10:43 AM
Im confused why people are being told to shove 77 and other average hands UTG with 15BB's. Put a standard raise in.
06-28-2010 , 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NCFCRulz
Im confused why people are being told to shove 77 and other average hands UTG with 15BB's. Put a standard raise in.
lol ok, enjoy losing 2.5BBs sir
06-28-2010 , 12:57 PM
this thread can be for preflop and postflop lines. sfobv. it is a thread for 27's 45's 90's 180's, to keep down on some of the clutter.
06-28-2010 , 02:45 PM
Main adjustments to make in switching from 45's to 180's?

Just taking any +cEV spot?
06-28-2010 , 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langerdang
Main adjustments to make in switching from 45's to 180's?
Expect more variance.
06-28-2010 , 04:06 PM
oh first time in, did not know there is a thread for us.

subscribed!


ps: watching FIFA world cup and 25tabling is +++++ev

06-28-2010 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IamPro
lol ok, enjoy losing 2.5BBs sir
The 13BB-15BB range is a troubling UTG spot with medium strength hands, though (mid pockets, KQ, A9-AQish).

To me, all three options kind of suck, whether you push, fold, or just standard raise.

(Having said that, I just made a shove with AJs )
06-28-2010 , 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanisher_2+2
The 13BB-15BB range is a troubling UTG spot
no its not, just close ur eyes and push unexploitable to your value range JTs,QTs.KTs,A9s....if everyone has 6BB+ stacks

Last edited by poporella; 06-28-2010 at 04:23 PM.
06-28-2010 , 04:25 PM
This hand felt very close. Villain stole 4 times in 8 opportunities with M < 7.

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t150 - 5 players
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CO: t7821 M = 1.49
BTN: t20036 M = 3.82
SB: t11869 M = 2.26
Hero (BB): t19502 M = 3.71
UTG: t8272 M = 1.58

Pre Flop: (t5250) Hero is BB with J K
2 folds, BTN raises to t19886 all in, 1 fold, Hero?
06-28-2010 , 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sopoRific
This hand felt very close. Villain stole 4 times in 8 opportunities with M < 7.

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t150 - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t7821 M = 1.49
BTN: t20036 M = 3.82
SB: t11869 M = 2.26
Hero (BB): t19502 M = 3.71
UTG: t8272 M = 1.58

Pre Flop: (t5250) Hero is BB with J K
2 folds, BTN raises to t19886 all in, 1 fold, Hero?
call. im calling with like A9+ KJ+ 77+. i think calling any wider is a icm mistake. and KJ may be 1 too.... its close enough.
06-28-2010 , 04:58 PM
[ ] 180s are dead

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 8 players
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CO: t3185 M = 106.17
BTN: t1490 M = 49.67
SB: t1480 M = 49.33
BB: t1480 M = 49.33
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
Hero (MP1): t1365 M = 45.50
MP2: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP1 with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, Hero raises to t135, 4 folds, BB calls t115, 1 fold

Flop: (t300) 5 9 Q (2 players)
BB bets t180, Hero raises to t580, BB calls t400

Turn: (t1460) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t650 all in, BB calls t650

River: (t2760) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2760
BB shows 4 9 (two pair, Nines and Fives)
Hero shows K K (two pair, Kings and Fives)
Hero wins t2760
06-28-2010 , 05:29 PM
love the pf raise size
06-28-2010 , 06:14 PM
This is a 45. Little in worthwhile reads for this situation. Earlier MP2 had raised and folded to my reraise preflop and had been activish overall but not wildly. CO is new to table. Before any action i figured I'd call a shove HU or shove over a raise HU specifically from UTG+1, MP2, BTN, and SB based on stacks/position. OK plan?

After the reraise I need a plan B, ya?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
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MP2: t1150 M = 3.83
CO: t3988 M = 13.29
BTN: t1695 M = 5.65
SB: t1375 M = 4.58
Hero (BB): t2432 M = 8.11
UTG: t2095 M = 6.98
UTG+1: t765 M = 2.55
MP1: t1500 M = 5

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with 9 9
3 folds, MP2 raises to t600, CO raises to t1200, 2 folds, Hero.....
06-28-2010 , 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeantownClown
This is a 45. Little in worthwhile reads for this situation. Earlier MP2 had raised and folded to my reraise preflop and had been activish overall but not wildly. CO is new to table. Before any action i figured I'd call a shove HU or shove over a raise HU specifically from UTG+1, MP2, BTN, and SB based on stacks/position. OK plan?

After the reraise I need a plan B, ya?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: t1150 M = 3.83
CO: t3988 M = 13.29
BTN: t1695 M = 5.65
SB: t1375 M = 4.58
Hero (BB): t2432 M = 8.11
UTG: t2095 M = 6.98
UTG+1: t765 M = 2.55
MP1: t1500 M = 5

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with 9 9
3 folds, MP2 raises to t600, CO raises to t1200, 2 folds, Hero.....
Hero folds to min 3bet even TT and maybe JJ here
06-28-2010 , 06:40 PM
Cool idea.

I am trying to get into the 90 $3 and $6 buyin knockout sng on full tilt.. the little I was able to read about them said that there are some adjustments to be made from the 45s and 180s on Stars, but I'm having a hard time finding what these adjustments should be.. any tips?
06-28-2010 , 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dotdotdot
Cool idea.

I am trying to get into the 90 $3 and $6 buyin knockout sng on full tilt.. the little I was able to read about them said that there are some adjustments to be made from the 45s and 180s on Stars, but I'm having a hard time finding what these adjustments should be.. any tips?
IMO more openraise/folding/postflop-play with awkward stacks instead of pushing, tighter pushing-ranges since there is no antes as far as i remember...i dont really like the structure there...at least not good for masstabling.
06-28-2010 , 06:51 PM
Antes start at level 10, 120/240/25.

But I do feel like more often I am sitting at awkward stack sizes.. especially post-flop.
06-28-2010 , 08:20 PM
It's a classic super +cev / meh $ev spot with 10/11 left. I feel that SB is on 75%+. I timebanked all the way down in great pain



Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 5 players
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Hero (BB): t7243 M = 6.30
UTG: t6524 M = 5.67
CO: t5024 M = 4.37
BTN: t5176 M = 4.50
SB: t6189 M = 5.38

Pre Flop: (t1150) Hero is BB with T Q
3 folds, SB raises to t6139 all in, 1 fold

      
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