IMO it's profitable to shove even wider than that. Now that you're ITM, you want to be extremely aggressive and play for first. The BB most likely won't call wide enough to make it a mistake (unprofitable on average) to shove with as many as 60% of your hands here.

Here's what such a range looks like (Poker Stove):

22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K3o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o

As you can see, most of the trashier hands in this range are at least connected, suited, or contain a face card. In post-bubble blind-versus-blind situations, I tend to treat Kx/Qx/Jx hands as if they were A2o+ and shove accordingly. This is just my particular style and I am not claiming to be an ICM expert (I don't even use Wiz ), but I would prefer to take risks 4-handed and go for first rather than sit around and win fourth- or third-place money.

But I'm naturally an MTT player; go figure.

Ty Bigboy592 and darqblue42, very good answers.
But just one more thing, let's change the situation and let's suppose i'm the BB and the SB is regular who will push wide, which range shoud i call with ?
So the hand would be like this:

Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 4 players

CO: t14640 M = 13.31
BTN: t1400 M = 1.27
SB: t5045 M = 4.59
Hero BB: t5915 M = 5.38

Pre Flop: (t1100) Hero is BB with random range
2 folds, SB regular pushes, Hero's calling range is ?




I really like to shove wide, if someone limps and BB is sitting out it's just too easy money. It even makes it better if limper is loose, he in my opinion will not call wide, just limp's and folds.. so i would push:
22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q4s+,J6s+,T6s+,97s+,87s,76s,A2o+,K6o +,Q8o+,J8o+,T8o+,98o
Might be too wide, but that's just me the "shover"

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 6 players
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UTG: t19472 M = 5.90
MP: t9166 M = 2.78
CO: t26068 M = 7.90
Hero (BTN): t13373 M = 4.05
SB: t20536 M = 6.22
BB: t13939 M = 4.22

Pre Flop: (t3300) Hero is BTN with 3 2
4 folds Hero?

Easy fold imo


1st hand of tourney;no reads at all; ok to play TPNK this way ? Too weak ?


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
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BTN: t1500 M = 50
SB: t1500 M = 50
Hero (BB): t1500 M = 50
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1500 M = 50
MP2: t1500 M = 50
CO: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 2 Q
3 folds, MP1 calls t20, 3 folds, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t60) 3 5 Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets t60, SB folds, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t180) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t180, Hero folds

Im not an ICM expert either and i agree that its good to be agressive so probably closer to your range than mine but i still don't think im shoving some of those hands because the button is so short and this is an 18man not a larger field. The payouts are flatter in 18s vs 180s. so its 108 for first, 81 for 2nd, 54 for 3rd, and 27 for 4th. The range i originally had on this hand is very similar to yours except it adds a few hands and like 74s and 53s and 76o and subtracts a few like T3s. I just cut some of the lower part of the range out. If this was a 45man i would loosen up my range a bit and if it was a 180 i would definitely loosen up close to your range.

No problem, if you were to use darqblue's perspective from the last hand, you should call with something like 22+ A2s+ K2s+ Q4s+ J7s+T8s+ 98s+ A2o+ K2o+ Q8o+ J9o+ and T9o+. However again considering that you barely have him covered and the button is super short and that this is an 18man, we can cut out the lower end of our range. I probably call with pairs, aces, decent kings, broadway.

fold is fine imo. I say just don't even get involved in the hand but if your really curious and want to find out where your at, open on the flop and see what he does, if he raises then fold, if he flats then c/f the turn/river

Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
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MP1: t3875 M = 5.96
MP2: t1245 M = 1.92
CO: t10518 M = 16.18
BTN: t7470 M = 11.49
SB: t2239 M = 3.44
Hero (BB): t4747 M = 7.30
UTG: t4575 M = 7.04
UTG+1: t1930 M = 2.97

Pre Flop: (t650) Hero is BB with J T
6 folds, SB raises to t2214 all in, Hero....


..makes the easiest call ever?

Hand #1
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+1: t960 M = 32
UTG+2: t1660 M = 55.33
Hero (MP1): t1450 M = 48.33
MP2: t2130 M = 71
CO: t1180 M = 39.33
BTN: t1410 M = 47
SB: t2170 M = 72.33
BB: t1040 M = 34.67
UTG: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP1 with 7 8
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, Hero calls t20, 1 fold, CO calls t20, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: (t90) 6 8 3 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets t120, Hero raises to t400, CO folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t280

Turn: (t890) A (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t180, Hero raises to t1030 all in, UTG+1 calls t360 all in

River: (t1970) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Hand #2
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players
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BTN: t3305 M = 44.07
SB: t1890 M = 25.20
Hero (BB): t1280 M = 17.07
UTG: t2885 M = 38.47
UTG+1: t3620 M = 48.27
UTG+2: t1545 M = 20.60
MP1: t798 M = 10.64
MP2: t1522 M = 20.29
CO: t2145 M = 28.60

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with J Q
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t50, 4 folds, SB calls t25, Hero checks

Flop: (t150) 4 T Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t100, UTG+2 folds, SB calls t100

Turn: (t350) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t275, SB raises to t550, Hero raises to t1130 all in, SB calls t580

River: (t2610) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

I think I played it fine but still want to check it is this was any other better way to play it?

nejuokai

hand 1: fold pre but well played postflop

hand 2 is fine

I was BB.Still fold?

oh sorry misread hands.Why this is a fold?This aint turbo we really cant overlimp SC deep?

Anyone any thoughts on how to play the 180man's once you've made the final 2 tables. I'm struggling to get more than min cash at the moment. I think I get impatient and blow my chips during the final 3 and final 2 tables.

It's hard to blow chips away in the final 2-3 tables of turbo 180s since you're in push-fold mode and need to be super aggressive. Just keep pounding on these guys and get lucky in 25k+ pots.

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 9 players
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CO: t10975 M = 16.26
BTN: t9500 M = 14.07
SB: t21360 M = 31.64
BB: t6795 M = 10.07
UTG: t11795 M = 17.47
UTG+1: t4850 M = 7.19
UTG+2: t4545 M = 6.73
MP1: t3472 M = 5.14
Hero (MP2): t7015 M = 10.39

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is MP2 with A 7
4 folds, Hero raises to t675, 1 fold, BTN raises to t1050, 2 folds, Hero calls t375

Flop: (t2775) 4 4 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t1200, Hero raises to t3600, BTN raises to t6000, Hero calls t2340 all in

Turn: (t14655) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t14655) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

I cant fold pre due to odds he gave me.What about open pre?

Hi im hoping some of you guys can give me some advise on what to do in this spot.

its a $2.20 180 man and there are about 20 players remaining

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 400/800 Blinds (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t6335)
Hero (BB) (t8380)
UTG (t2995)
MP1 (t7505)
MP2 (t4420)
CO (t8750)
Button (t13980)

Hero's M: 6.98

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 6
UTG bets t2920, MP1 raises t7430, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero ?????

UTG stats 17/9
MP1 stats 18/15
Hero stats 19/14

I'd just flat the flop

Another tough spot with 6 players remaining, with 2 players to act behind do we go all in here or fold?

My main concerns were the stack sizes of the Sb/BB, would it be a correct ICM fold here?

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2000/4000 Blinds (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t64916)
MP1 (t60718)
Hero (MP2) (t47976)
SB (t1955)
BB (t10791)

Hero's M: 8.00

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8, 8
1 fold, MP1 bets t60318, HERO???

Some hands where I thought were marginal calls in FTP 45s 10+1.

Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds - 5 players
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SB: t8015 M = 5.34
BB: t12646 M = 8.43
Hero (UTG): t21444 M = 14.30
CO: t9822 M = 6.55
BTN: t15573 M = 10.38

Pre Flop: (t1500) Hero is UTG with K J
Hero raises to t2350, 2 folds, SB raises to t8015 all in, 1 fold, Hero ?

Hand #2
Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds - 8 players
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UTG+1: t2795 M = 6.21
MP1: t2824 M = 6.28
MP2: t2605 M = 5.79
CO: t6250 M = 13.89
BTN: t7846 M = 17.44
SB: t1420 M = 3.16
Hero (BB): t6587 M = 14.64
UTG: t3442 M = 7.65

Pre Flop: (t450) Hero is BB with K 6
6 folds, SB raises to t1420 all in, Hero ?

Hand #3
Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t80/t160 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+1: t1930 M = 8.04
UTG+2: t1625 M = 6.77
MP1: t3760 M = 15.67
MP2: t2770 M = 11.54
Hero (CO): t5490 M = 22.88
BTN: t1607 M = 6.70
SB: t10319 M = 43.00
BB: t2909 M = 12.12
UTG: t1225 M = 5.10

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is CO with J A
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t1625 all in, 2 folds, Hero ?

Hand #4
Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 7 players
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MP: t1570 M = 13.08
CO: t4565 M = 38.04
Hero (BTN): t2415 M = 20.12
SB: t1165 M = 9.71
BB: t1750 M = 14.58
UTG: t1180 M = 9.83
UTG+1: t2635 M = 21.96

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is BTN with A 8
4 folds, Hero raises to t200, SB raises to t1165 all in, 1 fold, Hero ?


Hand #1: We're at the final table, no reads/stats on opponent. According to pokerstove against the top 7.5% hands (77+, AJs, KQs, AJo) I am about a 35%. We're getting the right odds I guess, he may be pushing even tighter than that against my UTG raise.

Hand #2: Down to 2 tables, any random hand I'm a 52%, against top 80% I'm 51.4%. I think this is marginal.

Hand #3: Is this close?

Hand #4: I think this is a fold, just wanted to be sure.

1)I would just openshoved this if I decided to play.It makes our decision much easier.If you doubt about calling right now you should folded pre-flop.Fold turns KJ into 8-3o here imo.
2)I would call this,K high should be good here.
3)For this one reads would be very usefull.Without reads I probably fold.
4)Fold.

Pretty easy fold, especially on the bubble

Nevermind I don't think it's bad to just get it in this short

Is there anymore really any money to be made in 12$ 180 mans? I have now tried to grind them a bit and it seems like that almost every second player is somewhat regular. So are the games really that phuckin' though nowadays or are there still some fish around?

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 9 players
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CO: t8408 M = 28.03
Hero (BTN): t3845 M = 12.82
SB: t2440 M = 8.13
BB: t16462 M = 54.87
UTG: t5457 M = 18.19
UTG+1: t3600 M = 12
UTG+2: t4225 M = 14.08
MP1: t8925 M = 29.75
MP2: t11605 M = 38.68

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BTN with A Q
5 folds, CO raises to t600, Hero raises to t2000, 2 folds, CO raises to t3400, Hero raises to t3845 all in, CO calls t445

Flop: (t7990) K 8 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t7990) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t7990) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Two hands with villain so no reads.Is this super standard spot get it in with AQ pre antes?

Yes it is super standard,wp