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Originally Posted by SuckMyBlind
Hi,
So i've been grinding some 3$ 45mans, and it looks like they are easy to beat even with the incredible amount of regs. Then I tried some 2$ 180 mans and that didnt go too well over a small sample size. So it all made me think about the differences between the two games.
Obviously, the 180s being longer and the cash reward more top heavy, am I wrong to think that ICM concepts do apply more to 45s than 180s (unless you ft them) ?
Someone posted that you should go for +cEV spots more often in the 180s. What does it concretely mean ? That you call more often than the 45s?
I am a bit lost because I feel like there is something I'm doing bad, esp with so much more random players, it seems to be harder to figure out their shoving ranges.
Could someone competent talk about the differences between 45s and 180s ?
Alright... so the biggest difference between the 45s and the 180s is going to be the payout structure and variance. For a 45man tourney 15.5% of the fields get paid and for winning you get paid 12.9 BI's. For a 180man, 10% of the field gets paid and the top 3 have a large increase in payouts compared to the rest of those who make the money.
So... When i'm playing 45s I try to play a little nittier early on and not get involved in coinflips as often because building the monster stack is not as important since the payouts are flatter. You should aim to make the money if you are a short stack around the bubble and as a large stack you should take more advantage of those who are trying to squeek into the money by being agressive around the bubble. Once you make the money, don't take unnecessary risks but don't be too nitty, kinda in the middle because we just want to move up the pay chart but taking first isn't quite as important as in 180s.
In the 180s, I'm more likely to take chances considering that im going FTW. I am willing to risk my chips with coinflips and draws much more than 45s and I'm basically looking for any chance to increase my stack. I treat the bubble basically as a chance to be agressive and build my stack. And once I'm ITM i'm agressive because If im short, it doesnt matter if i bust in 18th or 10th, i get paid the same amount, so you should really try to build your stack in this time. Final table is more of just looking at ICM spots. But.... yea just go for the win.
Anyone is welcome to PM me if interested in coaching