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View Poll Results: 18 man final table approximates closely to 9 man STT?
Yes
235 34.92%
No
413 61.37%
Other (post comment)
25 3.71%

07-13-2010 , 07:21 PM
****ty spot with the 99. I'd fold.
07-13-2010 , 07:27 PM
I folded the 99 but it was one of those stomach ache afterwards kinda folds. Seems I got it right this time. Still ended up bubbling. GD 180s.
07-13-2010 , 11:34 PM
99 is a fold imo
07-13-2010 , 11:44 PM
No reads on villain
God I hate playing OOP....Reraise pre? B/F flop? B/C flop, shove blank turn? Just fold? I checked to get value from AQ/AJ cbetting, didnt really want a call here. I hate these spots. Any advice would be great

45 man tourney btw

Bet/Bet+pot for breakeven calc right? so 1383/2143= .64 So i need to win 64% of the time right?


Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t1120 M = 18.67
CO: t1042 M = 17.37
BTN: t3240 M = 54
SB: t1995 M = 33.25
Hero (BB): t1503 M = 25.05
UTG: t1440 M = 24
UTG+1: t1440 M = 24

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with 8 8
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t120, 1 fold, CO calls t120, 2 folds, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t380) 2 7 K (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t380, CO folds, Hero raises to t1383 all in, UTG+1 calls t940 all in

Turn: (t3020) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t3020) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Last edited by mad_mardigan; 07-13-2010 at 11:49 PM. Reason: c1383/c2143
07-13-2010 , 11:50 PM
^^If he's potting it 3 way id just give him credit here...
07-14-2010 , 12:19 AM
No real reads,really early; ok to station turn and river or just fold somewhere,turn probably ?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
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UTG: t1490 M = 33.11
UTG+1: t6800 M = 151.11
Hero (MP1): t1435 M = 31.89
MP2: t1380 M = 30.67
CO: t5930 M = 131.78
BTN: t1485 M = 33
SB: t2640 M = 58.6
BB: t6390 M = 142

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP1 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to t90, 4 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t195) 2 A 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t195) 6 (2 players)
BB bets t230, Hero calls t230

River: (t655) Q (2 players)
BB bets t210, Hero
07-14-2010 , 12:32 AM
ok 1989- bet flop/ fold to a raise

turn looks ok, maybe fold but... fold river imo
07-14-2010 , 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ok1989
No real reads,really early; ok to station turn and river or just fold somewhere,turn probably ?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t1490 M = 33.11
UTG+1: t6800 M = 151.11
Hero (MP1): t1435 M = 31.89
MP2: t1380 M = 30.67
CO: t5930 M = 131.78
BTN: t1485 M = 33
SB: t2640 M = 58.6
BB: t6390 M = 142

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP1 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to t90, 4 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t195) 2 A 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t195) 6 (2 players)
BB bets t230, Hero calls t230

River: (t655) Q (2 players)
BB bets t210, Hero



Unless you have a sick read that villain will barrel turn with his entire range when you check flop, you have to cbet A high flops HU with KK. As played you have a hard time with turn and river as a result of not barreling flop and i think you have to fold on the river now. He could be betting an A for thin value or the nut flush. Theres really nothing you beat except for a bluff and i dont think he has that many of it with that bet sizing
07-14-2010 , 12:42 AM
Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t75 - 9 players
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MP1: t5355 M = 1.74
MP2: t1380 M = 0.45
CO: t6260 M = 2.04
BTN: t7955 M = 2.59
SB: t6405 M = 2.08
Hero (BB): t12805 M = 4.16
UTG: t4720 M = 1.53
UTG+1: t12650 M = 4.11
UTG+2: t9970 M = 3.24

Pre Flop: (t3075) Hero is BB with 6 K
7 folds, SB raises to t6330 all in, Hero calls t4730


Final table.
Thoughts on the call? Villain is a reg with 10/8 42 steal over 250 hands.
07-14-2010 , 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyri3
Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t75 - 9 players
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MP1: t5355 M = 1.74
MP2: t1380 M = 0.45
CO: t6260 M = 2.04
BTN: t7955 M = 2.59
SB: t6405 M = 2.08
Hero (BB): t12805 M = 4.16
UTG: t4720 M = 1.53
UTG+1: t12650 M = 4.11
UTG+2: t9970 M = 3.24

Pre Flop: (t3075) Hero is BB with 6 K
7 folds, SB raises to t6330 all in, Hero calls t4730



Thoughts on the call? Villain is a reg with 10/8 42 steal over 250 hands.
I like it given stacks and stats.
07-14-2010 , 12:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_mardigan
No reads on villain
God I hate playing OOP....Reraise pre? B/F flop? B/C flop, shove blank turn? Just fold? I checked to get value from AQ/AJ cbetting, didnt really want a call here. I hate these spots. Any advice would be great

45 man tourney btw

Bet/Bet+pot for breakeven calc right? so 1383/2143= .64 So i need to win 64% of the time right?


Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t1120 M = 18.67
CO: t1042 M = 17.37
BTN: t3240 M = 54
SB: t1995 M = 33.25
Hero (BB): t1503 M = 25.05
UTG: t1440 M = 24
UTG+1: t1440 M = 24

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with 8 8
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t120, 1 fold, CO calls t120, 2 folds, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t380) 2 7 K (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t380, CO folds, Hero raises to t1383 all in, UTG+1 calls t940 all in

Turn: (t3020) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t3020) K (2 players - 2 are all in)
Nit it up and fold if you dont make your set
07-14-2010 , 01:06 AM
Easy call right?

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 5 players
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SB: t8114 M = 2.03
BB: t8890 M = 2.22
UTG: t43915 M = 10.98
Hero (CO): t19756 M = 4.94
BTN: t30970 M = 7.74

Pre Flop: (t4000) Hero is CO with J T
1 fold, Hero raises to t4400, 2 folds, BB raises to t8690 all in, Hero calls t4290

Flop: (t19380) 3 K 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t19380) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t19380) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
07-14-2010 , 02:40 AM
just shove pre munchers
or fold it
07-14-2010 , 02:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchers
Easy call right?

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 5 players
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SB: t8114 M = 2.03
BB: t8890 M = 2.22
UTG: t43915 M = 10.98
Hero (CO): t19756 M = 4.94
BTN: t30970 M = 7.74

Pre Flop: (t4000) Hero is CO with J T
1 fold, Hero raises to t4400, 2 folds, BB raises to t8690 all in, Hero calls t4290

Flop: (t19380) 3 K 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t19380) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t19380) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
fyi, munchers, with < 15 bb's you should only be folding or shoving all in. your stack doesn't leave room for anything else. there are exceptions of course, but overall it is a pretty solid, pretty consistent guideline.
07-14-2010 , 02:59 AM
i know standard strategy is shove or fold, but in the situation played the way it was, is it a call for the extra 4.3k?
07-14-2010 , 03:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchers
i know standard strategy is shove or fold, but in the situation played the way it was, is it a call for the extra 4.3k?
of course. look how much money is in the pot, and look how much you have to pay to win it. www.pokerstove.com to see how not even close it is.

but it shouldnt even matter because shove pre.
07-14-2010 , 03:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchers
i know standard strategy is shove or fold, but in the situation played the way it was, is it a call for the extra 4.3k?
if he was Phill Hellmuth and would stand up and say

"Boy... yoo know i only do this with 3 hands... 3 hands!!!! I'm Phil Hellmuth Boy!!!!"

you should still call because of all the money in the pot
07-14-2010 , 09:01 AM
Few PF spots from 45mans.

Hand #1
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 8 players
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UTG: t1690 M = 7.51
UTG+1: t5785 M = 25.71
MP1: t1085 M = 4.82
MP2: t2290 M = 10.18
Hero (CO): t1095 M = 4.87
BTN: t2265 M = 10.07
SB: t1140 M = 5.07
BB: t1160 M = 5.16

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is CO with 2 A
4 folds, hero?

Hand #2
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
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SB: t1540 M = 5.13
BB: t5785 M = 19.28
UTG: t1085 M = 3.62
UTG+1: t2290 M = 7.63
Hero (MP1): t1095 M = 3.65
MP2: t2490 M = 8.30
CO: t990 M = 3.30
BTN: t1235 M = 4.12

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is MP1 with 8 Q
2 folds, [color=red] hero?

Hand #3
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+2: t2735 M = 12.16
MP1: t3203 M = 14.24
MP2: t4930 M = 21.91
CO: t2975 M = 13.22
BTN: t2025 M = 9
SB: t1025 M = 4.56
BB: t2900 M = 12.89
Hero (UTG): t2745 M = 12.20
UTG+1: t4678 M = 20.79

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG with 7 7
[color=red]Hero?

Hand #4
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
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CO: t2367 M = 2.96
BTN: t3645 M = 4.56
SB: t4125 M = 5.16
BB: t515 M = 0.64
UTG: t1050 M = 1.31
UTG+1: t3080 M = 3.85
Hero (MP1): t3315 M = 4.14
MP2: t6178 M = 7.72

Pre Flop: (t800) Hero is MP1 with J Q
2 folds, [color=red] hero?

Hand #5
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
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Hero (BTN): t3365 M = 4.21
SB: t1170 M = 1.46
BB: t3330 M = 4.16
UTG: t5450 M = 6.81
UTG+1: t4840 M = 6.05
MP1: t6275 M = 7.84
MP2: t5695 M = 7.12
CO: t2805 M = 3.51

Pre Flop: (t800) Hero is BTN with 2 2
4 folds, CO raises to t2780 all in, [color=red] hero?

Hand #7
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t50 - 6 players
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BB: t21729 M = 14.49
UTG: t7710 M = 5.14
MP: t9738 M = 6.49
CO: t9930 M = 6.62
BTN: t7960 M = 5.31
Hero (SB): t10433 M = 6.96

Pre Flop: (t1500) Hero is SB with Q K
1 fold, MP raises to t9688 all in, 2 folds hero?
07-14-2010 , 09:09 AM
@howtown

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23...nk-you-824728/

you know the situation on the table better than anyone here (their calling or shoving ranges)

so put in the numbers in the sheet and you have the correct answers in < 5 min total with some practise.
07-14-2010 , 10:54 AM
Full Tilt Poker $24 + $2 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 801901
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MP2: t6855 M = 38.08
CO: t3730 M = 20.72
BTN: t6210 M = 34.50
SB: t2370 M = 13.17
BB: t3565 M = 19.81
Hero (UTG): t3545 M = 19.69
UTG+1: t5610 M = 31.17
MP1: t2925 M = 16.25

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is UTG with A K
1 fold, Hero raises to t300, 5 folds, SB calls t180

Flop: (t600) J Q K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t420, SB raises to t2070 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

no real reads. im pretty sure i cant call here since im either tied or behind or were running 50/50 vs a huge draw. but is my line best?

is b/f>c/c?
07-14-2010 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyri3
Nit it up and fold if you dont make your set
I don't know how to necessarily interpret that 64%. If I'm 64% likely to win the hand, I guess check raise all-in. However since that 64% assumes you're going to get called, how likely are you good with 88 when you get called after c/r all-in? I doubt 64%. Prob drawing to 2 outs.
07-14-2010 , 01:00 PM
no read...what could be done differently and what do you do on the river

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
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SB: t1595 M = 35.44
BB: t3880 M = 86.22
Hero (UTG): t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+1: t3770 M = 83.78
MP1: t1470 M = 32.67
MP2: t1120 M = 24.89
CO: t1605 M = 35.67
BTN: t3800 M = 84.44

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to t90, UTG+1 calls t90, 5 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t285) 9 2 K (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, UTG+1 calls t120, BB folds

Turn: (t525) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t210, Hero calls t210

River: (t945) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t960
07-14-2010 , 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2trips
no read...what could be done differently and what do you do on the river

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t1595 M = 35.44
BB: t3880 M = 86.22
Hero (UTG): t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+1: t3770 M = 83.78
MP1: t1470 M = 32.67
MP2: t1120 M = 24.89
CO: t1605 M = 35.67
BTN: t3800 M = 84.44

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to t90, UTG+1 calls t90, 5 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t285) 9 2 K (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, UTG+1 calls t120, BB folds

Turn: (t525) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t210, Hero calls t210

River: (t945) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t960
bet turn/shove river easy game they can have anything in a 2.20

call as played
07-14-2010 , 04:04 PM
Villain is a fish,running sth like 44/22 over 9 hands so far.

Should we bet turn now ? Insta calling if he c/shoves ?


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
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BB: t2070 M = 69
UTG: t2100 M = 70
UTG+1: t1920 M = 64
UTG+2: t1990 M = 66.33
Hero (MP1): t2020 M = 67.33
MP2: t1960 M = 65.33
CO: t1610 M = 53.67
BTN: t2200 M = 73.33
SB: t2130 M = 71

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP1 with A A
UTG calls t20, 2 folds, Hero raises to t80, MP2 calls t80, 4 folds, UTG calls t60

Flop: (t270) 7 J T (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t180, MP2 calls t180, UTG folds

Turn: (t630) 8 (2 players)
07-14-2010 , 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ok1989
Villain is a fish,running sth like 44/22 over 9 hands so far.

Should we bet turn now ? Insta calling if he c/shoves ?


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t2070 M = 69
UTG: t2100 M = 70
UTG+1: t1920 M = 64
UTG+2: t1990 M = 66.33
Hero (MP1): t2020 M = 67.33
MP2: t1960 M = 65.33
CO: t1610 M = 53.67
BTN: t2200 M = 73.33
SB: t2130 M = 71

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP1 with A A
UTG calls t20, 2 folds, Hero raises to t80, MP2 calls t80, 4 folds, UTG calls t60

Flop: (t270) 7 J T (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t180, MP2 calls t180, UTG folds

Turn: (t630) 8 (2 players)
100-120 pre
pot the flop
build a pot please

as played, its not great but I would bet/call turn you're prolly still ahead

      
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