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View Poll Results: 18 man final table approximates closely to 9 man STT?
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07-12-2010 , 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarknight
What HUD stats are you guys using? VPIP/PFR/3 bet frequency/Fold bb/AF?
VPIP/first raise/steal/ fold to steal/
SB limp/SB raise

3bet stats are pretty useless in turbos maybe in all tourneys that start with 1.500 chips.
07-12-2010 , 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyri3
Im curious what did he have? Min raise on turn by passive fish is like almost always the nuts. His line at the river does not make any sense at all. plz tell me what he has its killing me
Nut flush obv
07-12-2010 , 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_malin
villain 40/7 over 30 hands.


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t1500 M = 50
BTN: t1490 M = 49.67
SB: t1480 M = 49.33
Hero (BB): t1500 M = 50
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1790 M = 59.67
MP2: t1240 M = 41.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 4 J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, 1 fold, CO calls t20, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (t90) T 9 6 (4 players)
Hero bets t65, UTG+1 calls t65, MP1 folds, CO folds

Turn: (t220) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t160, UTG+1 raises to t320, Hero calls t160

River: (t860) J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t240, Hero calls t240
i snap 4b shove turn all day vs droolers, most of the time they got draw or some rigged two pair hands and they dont plan to fold.

anyone noticed the 3/45 turbos infested with so much regs lately? some of them also make really strange calls bc of some meta game they think they got with you, i shove from sb at 100lvl and a bb reg called me w T8s, sick stuff.

Last edited by FlushThunder; 07-12-2010 at 08:33 PM.
07-12-2010 , 08:46 PM
did the villain made a good call?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t75 - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t7530 M = 2.79
Hero (SB): t42234 M = 15.64
BB: t14841 M = 5.50
CO: t2895 M = 1.07

Pre Flop: (t2700) Hero is SB with 8 T
2 folds, Hero raises to t42159 all in, BB calls t13166 all in

Flop: (t29832) Q 2 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t29832) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t29832) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t29832
Hero shows 8 T (a pair of Tens)
BB shows A T (a pair of Tens - Ace kicker)
BB wins t29832

a reg ships utg at ft bubble, do we call?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t7890 M = 6.58
UTG: t3534 M = 2.94
MP: t8460 M = 7.05
CO: t6120 M = 5.10
BTN: t2351 M = 1.96
Hero (SB): t6645 M = 5.54

Pre Flop: (t1200) Hero is SB with A T
UTG raises to t3484 all in, 3 folds, Hero?
07-12-2010 , 09:09 PM
[QUOTE=FlushThunder;20186932]did the villain made a good call?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t75 - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t7530 M = 2.79
Hero (SB): t42234 M = 15.64
BB: t14841 M = 5.50
CO: t2895 M = 1.07

Pre Flop: (t2700) Hero is SB with 8 T
2 folds, Hero raises to t42159 all in, BB calls t13166 all in

Flop: (t29832) Q 2 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t29832) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t29832) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t29832
Hero shows 8 T (a pair of Tens)
BB shows A T (a pair of Tens - Ace kicker)
BB wins t29832



good call kiddo
07-12-2010 , 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlushThunder

anyone noticed the 3/45 turbos infested with so much regs lately? some of them also make really strange calls bc of some meta game they think they got with you, i shove from sb at 100lvl and a bb reg called me w T8s, sick stuff.
Yeah I noticed an increased number of regs lately. Most are not that good but they cost us money with their crazy lite calls. Being ahead of someone's range seems to be the only thing that matters to them.

In before no money in the 3.25s, everyone's solid
07-12-2010 , 10:10 PM
martin you should install utorrent, a much better program then bitcomet, especially when your 30 tbling.
07-12-2010 , 10:30 PM
Hey guys, can I ask for help w/ 5 hands in a single post? And please tell me how stupid these questions are! (I`m serious)

All the hands are from $1.75 turbo/18 man

Hand 1) He's 18/11 over 140
Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 5 players
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Hero (SB): t1687 M = 3.97
BB: t2968 M = 6.98
UTG: t3125 M = 7.35
CO: t1080 M = 2.54
BTN: t3300 M = 7.76

Pre Flop: (t425) Hero is SB with A Q
2 folds, BTN raises to t500, [color=red]Hero...?


Hand 2)Should push, right? What is my pushing range here?
Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
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MP2: t3600 M = 7.20
CO: t5995 M = 11.99
BTN: t2195 M = 4.39
SB: t6875 M = 13.75
BB: t690 M = 1.38
UTG: t2770 M = 5.54
Hero (UTG+1): t1525 M = 3.05
MP1: t3350 M = 6.70

Pre Flop: (t500) Hero is UTG+1 with J Q
1 fold, Hero?

Hand 3) What about this push?
Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
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SB: t6220 M = 27.64
BB: t1460 M = 6.49
UTG: t1780 M = 7.91
Hero (MP): t1020 M = 4.53
CO: t3675 M = 16.33
BTN: t865 M = 3.84

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is MP with T K
1 fold, Hero raises to t1020 all in

Hand 4)
Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 6 players
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CO: t5285 M = 17.62
BTN: t4305 M = 14.35
Hero (SB): t1365 M = 4.55
BB: t1815 M = 6.05
UTG: t1315 M = 4.38
MP: t1320 M = 4.40

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is SB with J 8
5 folds

Hand 5) BB is 30/23 over 60
Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 6 players
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SB: t3539 M = 4.72
BB: t7656 M = 10.21
UTG: t3349 M = 4.47
MP: t4906 M = 6.54
Hero (CO): t3158 M = 4.21
BTN: t4392 M = 5.86

Pre Flop: (t750) Hero is CO with A 8
2 folds, [color=red]Hero...?
07-12-2010 , 10:54 PM
1 shove
2-shove
3-shove
4-shove 32o, J8 is a bonus
5-shove
07-12-2010 , 11:00 PM
what advice would you give to a winning player at mtts from 1-5$ range that wants to start grinding the 2$ 180mans on stars and the 3$ 90 mans KO on ftp? what resources should I seek out? do the 90s and 180s play similarily?
07-12-2010 , 11:11 PM
thank you so much martin
07-12-2010 , 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howtown
12/8 over 26
he's a platinum star

flatter is a fish

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t1365 M = 18.20
UTG+1: t1250 M = 16.67
MP1: t2990 M = 39.87
MP2: t1665 M = 22.20
CO: t1595 M = 21.27
BTN: t1290 M = 17.20
Hero (SB): t1850 M = 24.67
BB: t1495 M = 19.93

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is SB with A Q
UTG raises to t150, 1 fold, MP1 calls t150, 3 folds, Hero?
?
07-12-2010 , 11:57 PM
I would 3bet shove AK but prolly fold AQ given reads about UTG

edit

Thinking about it that's probably a fine shove with flatter being a noob, you just want UTG to be opening ATs/AJ.

Last edited by martin_malin; 07-13-2010 at 12:11 AM.
07-13-2010 , 06:00 AM
PokerStars Game #46705777429: Tournament #291214405, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2010/07/13 5:47:49 ET
Table '291214405 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: KaneYu (10287 in chips)
Seat 2: active009 (15724 in chips)
Seat 3: argon18_dk (5600 in chips)
Seat 5: belko222 (3138 in chips)
Seat 6: lazeeboy19 (11687 in chips)
Seat 7: Colinstetion (21642 in chips)
Seat 8: Uselis (2790 in chips)
Seat 9: SHOOTERS28 (4887 in chips)
KaneYu: posts the ante 25
active009: posts the ante 25
argon18_dk: posts the ante 25
belko222: posts the ante 25
lazeeboy19: posts the ante 25
Colinstetion: posts the ante 25
Uselis: posts the ante 25
SHOOTERS28: posts the ante 25
KaneYu: posts small blind 125
active009: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Uselis [8c 8d]
argon18_dk: folds
belko222: raises 2863 to 3113 and is all-in
lazeeboy19: folds
Colinstetion: folds
Uselis: calls 2765 and is all-in
SHOOTERS28: folds
KaneYu: folds
active009: folds
Uncalled bet (348) returned to belko222
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7s Kc]
*** TURN *** [Qh 7s Kc] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Qh 7s Kc 4c] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
belko222: shows [Qd Ad] (a pair of Queens)
Uselis: shows [8c 8d] (a pair of Eights)
belko222 collected 6105 from pot
Uselis finished the tournament in 42nd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6105 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 7s Kc 4c Jc]
Seat 1: KaneYu (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: active009 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: argon18_dk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: belko222 showed [Qd Ad] and won (6105) with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: lazeeboy19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Colinstetion folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Uselis showed [8c 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: SHOOTERS28 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)



Villain 16/9 insta call here?
07-13-2010 , 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by poporella
VPIP/first raise/steal/ fold to steal/
SB limp/SB raise

3bet stats are pretty useless in turbos maybe in all tourneys that start with 1.500 chips.
Interesting, is first raise just a variation of PFR, or the same? Fold to Steal is a combination of folding in the bb and sb?

Why SB limp and SB raise? (for blind v blind battles?)

In addition, how do you use HEM to analyze your tourney play. What are in-line stats?
07-13-2010 , 12:11 PM
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t2845 M = 37.93
UTG: t2490 M = 33.20
UTG+1: t2330 M = 31.07
MP1: t2795 M = 37.27
Hero (MP2): t1510 M = 20.13
CO: t1710 M = 22.80
BTN: t3940 M = 52.53
SB: t7360 M = 98.13

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is MP2 with Q K
3 folds, Hero raises to t150, 2 folds, SB calls t125, BB calls t100

Flop: (t450) Q J 6 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t100, Hero raises to t350, SB calls t350, BB folds

Turn: (t1250) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t1250) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Where I made a mistake in this hand?Should I just call flop?
07-13-2010 , 02:36 PM
I shove turn and double up

Could you please help me with these middle stages hands? Im not sure what to do because I beleive I'm too deep to shove now

Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t1305 M = 5.80
MP: t6815 M = 30.29
CO: t1707 M = 7.59
Hero (BTN): t1630 M = 7.24
SB: t2055 M = 9.13
BB: t1235 M = 5.49

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BTN with A 4
3 folds, [color=red]Hero
...?


Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t1455 M = 9.70
MP: t6665 M = 44.43
CO: t1882 M = 12.55
Hero (BTN): t1480 M = 9.87
SB: t2030 M = 13.53
BB: t1235 M = 8.23

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN with A 8
3 folds, [color=red] Hero
...?


Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t3750 M = 16.67
UTG: t2657 M = 11.81
CO: t1925 M = 8.56
BTN: t1843 M = 8.19
SB: t1540 M = 6.84

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BB with 3 K


I believe these are auto-shove spots if we are shorter, but aren't we too deep now to push?

Thank you for the great advices!
07-13-2010 , 02:41 PM
No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t4380)
MP1 (t4130)
MP2 (t6080)
MP3 (t8531)
Button (t2686)
SB (t6000)
BB (t9131)
Hero (UTG) (t5741)

Hero's M: 9.57

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, 6
[color=#CC3333]Hero

is a range of 22+ A10s KQs good here or too loose?
07-13-2010 , 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howtown
12/8 over 26
he's a platinum star

flatter is a fish

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t1365 M = 18.20
UTG+1: t1250 M = 16.67
MP1: t2990 M = 39.87
MP2: t1665 M = 22.20
CO: t1595 M = 21.27
BTN: t1290 M = 17.20
Hero (SB): t1850 M = 24.67
BB: t1495 M = 19.93

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is SB with A Q
UTG raises to t150, 1 fold, MP1 calls t150, 3 folds, Hero?
I flat, don't be such nits, imo it's profitable.
07-13-2010 , 04:56 PM
Hey guys, can I ask for help w/ 5 hands in a single post? And please tell me how stupid these questions are! (I`m serious)

Quote:
All the hands are from $1.75 turbo/18 man

Hand 1) He's 18/11 over 140
Poker Stars $1.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): t1687 M = 3.97
BB: t2968 M = 6.98
UTG: t3125 M = 7.35
CO: t1080 M = 2.54
BTN: t3300 M = 7.76

Pre Flop: (t425) Hero is SB with A Q
2 folds, BTN raises to t500, [color=red]Hero...?
I think wiz would give this a fold. Anyone run this one?
07-13-2010 , 06:39 PM
28 left. Unsure if this is a call here after UTG open and UTG+1 shove. Maybe I'm a super nit to even be asking.


Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t8880 M = 4.93
UTG+1: t9115 M = 5.06
Hero (MP1): t5845 M = 3.25
MP2: t7390 M = 4.11
CO: t7866 M = 4.37
BTN: t3043 M = 1.69
SB: t10118 M = 5.62
BB: t9230 M = 5.13

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is MP1 with 9 9
UTG raises to t1600, UTG+1 raises to t9040 all in, Hero ???????
07-13-2010 , 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nobosox
28 left. Unsure if this is a call here after UTG open and UTG+1 shove. Maybe I'm a super nit to even be asking.


Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t8880 M = 4.93
UTG+1: t9115 M = 5.06
Hero (MP1): t5845 M = 3.25
MP2: t7390 M = 4.11
CO: t7866 M = 4.37
BTN: t3043 M = 1.69
SB: t10118 M = 5.62
BB: t9230 M = 5.13

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is MP1 with 9 9
UTG raises to t1600, UTG+1 raises to t9040 all in, Hero ???????
Almost positive that I fold this in game. Maybe it should be a call in practice though.
07-13-2010 , 06:48 PM
Yeah it seemed really really close and I am still not sure what the proper play is. I should add that original raiser and UTG+1 shover were both like 20/20 over about 40ish hands.
07-13-2010 , 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipThisPLZ
what advice would you give to a winning player at mtts from 1-5$ range that wants to start grinding the 2$ 180mans on stars and the 3$ 90 mans KO on ftp? what resources should I seek out? do the 90s and 180s play similarily?
I guess I'll respond to this... pretty much play tight early shove pretty wide late and when its close just shove

Get SNGWiz once u can afford it
07-13-2010 , 07:17 PM
folding the 99. but it is ******edly close. getting in with JJ+ for sure and prolly 1010+ AQs+

      
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