whats your risk reward calc on that move, in a 45man i would say its horrib readless, but in a 180 mehh that move would not touch as much $ev so might be ok with 20BB. 15BB imo is optimal stacksize for spazzing around.

I'll be honest....while I'm a winning player (at the lowest of levels) and am not a 'beginner' with regards to time spent playing the game, I'm very much a beginner when it come to working out what moves are +/-cEV/$EV and why.

I guess I'm very much a TAGfish who's trying to move away from the ABC and add a few moves
(such as this) to his game (again, without really understanding the math/logic behind it).

My thought process was....He could be stealing. I have a pretty hand and enough chips to make him fold. I shove.

Should probably spend the next week or so doing a lot less playing and a lot more reading imo!!

My lesson from cash games, dont exercise risky moves without reads.
its always hard to recall, cause situations seem way to nice, but def the wrong approach just because you have a pretty hand to squzeeze and you like to take profit from your tight image. why? if there is noone who exploits your weak tight strategy why go beyond it?!

not good readless.you should be restealing for value readless at this buy in level.

Resteal means you think opponent is stealing but you have no read so you could be in a bad spot. I like a fold.

Yup

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 2.2 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t6035)
UTG+1 (t2060)
Hero (MP1) (t2045)
MP2 (t3240)
MP3 (t1545)
CO (t465)
Button (t2450)
SB (t3155)
BB (t960)

Hero's M: 9.09

Preflop: Hero is MP1 ??

what should my range in this spot be?

thanks!

im super nitty, i open push AK,JJ+ maybe open TT and AQ but i think i fold these cause its not increasing your stack size that much that its worth it (meaning it doesnt increase your $ev of your current stacksize)... but im super nitty OOP before the ante kicks in + i play the 45er

2 bubble hands w/ ATo UTG

1)BB is solid and calling very wide

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t75 - 9 players
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Hero (UTG): t5583 M = 2.26
UTG+1: t7243 M = 2.93
UTG+2: t7901 M = 3.19
MP1: t3097 M = 1.25
MP2: t20066 M = 8.11
CO: t4290 M = 1.73
BTN: t5968 M = 2.41
SB: t9357 M = 3.78
BB: t3995 M = 1.61

Pre Flop: (t2475) Hero is UTG with A T
Hero raises to t5508 all in,


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MP1: t5874 M = 3.56
MP2: t3220 M = 1.95
CO: t19950 M = 12.09
BTN: t6620 M = 4.01
SB: t10335 M = 6.26
BB: t7155 M = 4.34
Hero (UTG): t5660 M = 3.43
UTG+1: t1845 M = 1.12
UTG+2: t6841 M = 4.15

Pre Flop: (t1650) Hero is UTG with T A
8 folds

that's WAYYY too nitty. you wanna be shoving like 66+,ATo+

ez shoves

1) theres two shorter stacks and BB is calling super wide
2) theres a 2bbs shorty

I know shoving is +ev hapiness and +cev but it's clearly -$Ev. By using a hybrid model of icm/cev I felt that both hands were kinda close. So I'm I really a nit for thinking that?

The truth might hurt

villain 40/7 over 30 hands.


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CO: t1500 M = 50
BTN: t1490 M = 49.67
SB: t1480 M = 49.33
Hero (BB): t1500 M = 50
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1790 M = 59.67
MP2: t1240 M = 41.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 4 J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, 1 fold, CO calls t20, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (t90) T 9 6 (4 players)
Hero bets t65, UTG+1 calls t65, MP1 folds, CO folds

Turn: (t220) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t160, UTG+1 raises to t320, Hero calls t160

River: (t860) J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t240, Hero calls t240

ha well i play 180 mans so i'm prob a lot looser than a 45 grinder, maybe a good 45 reg could chime in and provide some insight. I'm just unsure how closely we should be following ICM when the difference is just a mincash.

i prefer raising turn for value

if wizz is god,

9 handed i shove these especially at the $6.5 games since there are so few spots for shorties to double up, 8 handed i would fold 2d one.

99+, AJ+

with nits behind 22+ AJ+

with nits behind my 2cents thats horrib at that stage of the tourney, if you wanna enter the pot with nits behind, then at least raise fold/call but then again wider.
maybe 66+/ A9s+/ AT raise call with monkeys behind, then you give at least someon the chance to restealspazz with A2/ KTs...

lmao....monkeys will call these hands off just as often....

AND MORE OFTEN THAN SPAZ OUT THEY FLAT AND PUT THEMSELVES IN POSITION TO PLAY PROFITABLY VS YOUR RANGE POSTFLOP.

good try though

i'm horrible\
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EDIT

with monks i mean people who are aggressive and dont flat..dont interpretate thing like you want just to justify your position...its a discussion forum not a flame forum. By the way i folkd this anyway it was just me two cents if i would not.

12/8 over 26
he's a platinum star

flatter is a fish

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players
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UTG: t1365 M = 18.20
UTG+1: t1250 M = 16.67
MP1: t2990 M = 39.87
MP2: t1665 M = 22.20
CO: t1595 M = 21.27
BTN: t1290 M = 17.20
Hero (SB): t1850 M = 24.67
BB: t1495 M = 19.93

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is SB with A Q
UTG raises to t150, 1 fold, MP1 calls t150, 3 folds, Hero?

I fold if your only outs are a flush, though a possible +ev scenario would be Axx utg ck folds and you are HU with fish, but how often is this going to happen.

Im curious what did he have? Min raise on turn by passive fish is like almost always the nuts. His line at the river does not make any sense at all. plz tell me what he has its killing me

What HUD stats are you guys using? VPIP/PFR/3 bet frequency/Fold bb/AF?