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View Poll Results: 18 man final table approximates closely to 9 man STT?
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25 3.71%

07-20-2011 , 12:22 PM
45man turbo, 10 people left. I made this minraise so I could get away from the bigstack if he shoves, or just steal/call the lowstacks. Was this play correct, or should I just fold this preflop?

    Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10019812

    MP: 4,690 (7.8 bb)
    Hero (CO): 12,584 (21 bb)
    BTN: 10,085 (16.8 bb)
    SB: 3,938 (6.6 bb)
    BB: 3,235 (5.4 bb)

    Preflop: (250) Hero is CO with A 3
    MP folds, Hero raises to 1,200, BTN folds, SB raises to 3,888 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls 2,688

    Flop: (8,626) 6 5 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (8,626) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (8,626) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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    07-20-2011 , 12:41 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dmindoh
    45man turbo, 10 people left. I made this minraise so I could get away from the bigstack if he shoves, or just steal/call the lowstacks. Was this play correct, or should I just fold this preflop?

      Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10019812

      MP: 4,690 (7.8 bb)
      Hero (CO): 12,584 (21 bb)
      BTN: 10,085 (16.8 bb)
      SB: 3,938 (6.6 bb)
      BB: 3,235 (5.4 bb)

      Preflop: (250) Hero is CO with A 3
      MP folds, Hero raises to 1,200, BTN folds, SB raises to 3,888 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls 2,688

      Flop: (8,626) 6 5 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: (8,626) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (8,626) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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      07-21-2011 , 11:36 PM
      Ok, since Black Friday, I have not really been able to play any poker. I go to graduate school and can't afford a bankroll big enough to drive to and play in brick and mortar casinos. Recently, I heard about a charity poker room in town that runs games from Thurs-Sun. As I am not from around here and know very few people, I decided to play some poker for low stakes.

      Stakes: $20 buy-in + $5 donation (top 2 places paid)
      Players: 7/20 (2 table tourney)
      Blinds: 1000/2000
      Chip stacks:
      SB- 20000
      BB (Hero)- 9000
      UTG- 24000
      UTG+1- 14000
      Highjack- 12000
      Cutoff- 17000
      Btn- 24000


      UTG opens to 4K. Action folds around to the Hero in the BB. Hero looks down and sees 9 5. Hero pushes all-in. Hero is called by UTG+1.

      What do you all think about this play? I don't really want to shove there, but I have literally no chips from the ridiculously $hitty structure of the $hitty tourney.
      07-21-2011 , 11:37 PM
      2 $15 180 spots:

      This villain is unknown. 0/0 over 7 hands but possibly couldn't have found a spot.

      Poker Stars $13.77+$1.23 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 8 players - View hand 1379809
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      UTG+1: t4200 M = 2.33
      Hero (MP1): t7008 M = 3.89
      MP2: t3772 M = 2.10
      CO: t26519 M = 14.73
      BTN: t15212 M = 8.45
      SB: t5643 M = 3.13
      BB: t15062 M = 8.37
      UTG: t9584 M = 5.32

      Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is MP1 with A 8
      1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t1600, 5 folds, BB calls t800

      Here's another one. Usually fold a4o as a default, not sure if it's bad. Doesn't net too many chips in Wiz. nash charts say push a8o+ in this spot.

      Poker Stars $13.77+$1.23 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 7 players - View hand 1379810
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      Hero (UTG): t6933 M = 4.02
      UTG+1: t3697 M = 2.14
      MP: t26444 M = 15.33
      CO: t15137 M = 8.78
      BTN: t5168 M = 3.00
      SB: t20112 M = 11.66
      BB: t9509 M = 5.51

      Pre Flop: (t1725) Hero is UTG with A 4 :diamond
      07-22-2011 , 02:27 PM
      Can anyone good recommend an aggressive yet practical bankroll strategy for 45-180 man SNGs?

      Like, is 50 Buy-ins playable? I'm new to tournaments
      07-22-2011 , 05:34 PM
      50 Buy-ins will probably cut it for the 45 mans, should ideally have more for 180 mans though. I reckon around 100 should cut it.
      07-23-2011 , 05:05 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by jjyykk
      2 $15 180 spots:

      This villain is unknown. 0/0 over 7 hands but possibly couldn't have found a spot.

      Poker Stars $13.77+$1.23 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 8 players - View hand 1379809
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      UTG+1: t4200 M = 2.33
      Hero (MP1): t7008 M = 3.89
      MP2: t3772 M = 2.10
      CO: t26519 M = 14.73
      BTN: t15212 M = 8.45
      SB: t5643 M = 3.13
      BB: t15062 M = 8.37
      UTG: t9584 M = 5.32

      Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is MP1 with A 8
      1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t1600, 5 folds, BB calls t800

      Here's another one. Usually fold a4o as a default, not sure if it's bad. Doesn't net too many chips in Wiz. nash charts say push a8o+ in this spot.

      Poker Stars $13.77+$1.23 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 7 players - View hand 1379810
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      Hero (UTG): t6933 M = 4.02
      UTG+1: t3697 M = 2.14
      MP: t26444 M = 15.33
      CO: t15137 M = 8.78
      BTN: t5168 M = 3.00
      SB: t20112 M = 11.66
      BB: t9509 M = 5.51

      Pre Flop: (t1725) Hero is UTG with A 4 :diamond

      1) close shove
      2) close shove
      07-25-2011 , 05:24 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Nikachu
      Can anyone good recommend an aggressive yet practical bankroll strategy for 45-180 man SNGs?

      Like, is 50 Buy-ins playable? I'm new to tournaments
      i assume you are gonna play turbo, i would try 40 bi for 45man, 100+ for 180man

      and are you the cr nikachu =o
      07-25-2011 , 07:13 PM
      Lol @ 40BI for 45 man.. c'mon man, at least 100BI's if you're considering grinding them.
      07-26-2011 , 02:27 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by OnlyChobo
      i assume you are gonna play turbo, i would try 40 bi for 45man, 100+ for 180man

      and are you the cr nikachu =o
      Yes, I am the CR Nikachu.

      Just sort of winging it right now with the bankroll. I'm playing 80-100ish BIs for basically anything, 45man-180man-MTT. With random shots at $22 sunday tournaments lol (probably only rolled for $6-$7 torunaments). Trying to fly up limits as quickly as possible. I'm not one to grind at any particular stake if I can play higher.

      I prefer tournaments with more people. that way there is a more thrilling "big win".

      It's all about the big win.
      07-26-2011 , 04:06 PM
      i am more use to the 45man on ft, which is non-turbo. But I mean even with turbo 100 bb seems like a stretch, 70 should be enough for sure
      07-26-2011 , 07:45 PM
      Just starting out playing these, I used to grind the rush RODs on FTP but looks like it's going to be the 180s for the next while.

      Any good 180 skype groups that I would be welcome to join and discuss HHs and optimal play?

      My ROD stats below

      265108 1,788$3.62 $9 70%$6,465 TiltN/AFullTilt9/27/2010 7/27/2011 SNG Only
      07-26-2011 , 11:17 PM
      yo, im looking for 2-3 guys who are playing the 180man turbos and want to do some strat talk in skype just add me in skype under "einfachnurrakeback" ore write a pm to me.
      ive played ~5000 180s withn an roi of 25% and an avg bi of 3.50$

      Last edited by TollTillt; 07-26-2011 at 11:23 PM.
      07-29-2011 , 12:03 AM
      Hey All, Just wondering if anybody here plays $6 Standard 50 Man SNGs on Party?
      08-03-2011 , 05:35 AM
      **** party
      08-05-2011 , 02:36 PM
        Poker Stars, $7.34 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10177182

        UTG+2: 10,356 (12.9 bb)
        MP1: 10,177 (12.7 bb)
        MP2: 4,895 (6.1 bb)
        MP3: 10,485 (13.1 bb)
        Hero (CO): 9,220 (11.5 bb)
        BTN: 17,950 (22.4 bb)
        SB: 10,223 (12.8 bb)
        BB: 5,385 (6.7 bb)

        Preflop: (600) Hero is CO with A Q
        3 folds, MP3 raises to 10,410 and is all-in, 4 folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: 2,600 pot
        MP3 mucked and won 2,600 (1,725 net)



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        snap call? no detail on villain, 5 hands first shove
        my positition 14/25 e.180plr

        Last edited by marlijuissi; 08-05-2011 at 02:43 PM.
        08-05-2011 , 03:20 PM
        snap the AQ there
        08-05-2011 , 07:46 PM
        Hello fellow wanderers. Two thin shoves for your perusal! These are both ITM of 180s.


        Poker Stars $32.13+$2.87 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players - View hand 1398567
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        BB: t16549 M = 4.60
        UTG: t18894 M = 5.25
        Hero (UTG+1): t22589 M = 6.27
        MP1: t16181 M = 4.49
        MP2: t11230 M = 3.12
        CO: t19575 M = 5.44
        BTN: t4119 M = 1.14
        SB: t11017 M = 3.06

        Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 3
        1 fold, Hero raises to t22439 all in

        Nash agrees with this.


        Poker Stars $13.77+$1.23 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players - View hand 1398568
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        Hero (UTG): t19408 M = 5.39
        UTG+1: t23311 M = 6.48
        MP1: t12685 M = 3.52
        MP2: t24381 M = 6.77
        CO: t17241 M = 4.79
        BTN: t15236 M = 4.23
        SB: t29850 M = 8.29
        BB: t16090 M = 4.47

        Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is UTG with K J
        Hero raises to t19258 all in

        Nash agrees.
        08-06-2011 , 12:23 AM
        33 looks good,KJs looks good.
        08-06-2011 , 08:32 AM
        Spoiler:
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by jjyykk
        Hello fellow wanderers. Two thin shoves for your perusal! These are both ITM of 180s.


        Poker Stars $32.13+$2.87 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players - View hand 1398567
        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

        BB: t16549 M = 4.60
        UTG: t18894 M = 5.25
        Hero (UTG+1): t22589 M = 6.27
        MP1: t16181 M = 4.49
        MP2: t11230 M = 3.12
        CO: t19575 M = 5.44
        BTN: t4119 M = 1.14
        SB: t11017 M = 3.06

        Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 3
        1 fold, Hero raises to t22439 all in

        Nash agrees with this.


        Poker Stars $13.77+$1.23 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players - View hand 1398568
        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

        Hero (UTG): t19408 M = 5.39
        UTG+1: t23311 M = 6.48
        MP1: t12685 M = 3.52
        MP2: t24381 M = 6.77
        CO: t17241 M = 4.79
        BTN: t15236 M = 4.23
        SB: t29850 M = 8.29
        BB: t16090 M = 4.47

        Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is UTG with K J
        Hero raises to t19258 all in

        Nash agrees.


        Doesn't any calling range crush you there? You have over 12 bb's and I think that you could steal far more profitably when on sb or late positon. I'd love to see some mathematical explanation if anybody could provide that (and thinks it looks fine). Thanks
        08-06-2011 , 12:23 PM
        ok, im in sb w/ 55 and 9 BBs. reasonable player opens to 2.5bb in LP and is prolly gonna call me off. shud i fold, or shud i shove?
        08-06-2011 , 09:47 PM
        Stop n go!
        08-07-2011 , 04:28 PM
        180 FT, this a shove?

          Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (1,500/3,000 blinds, 300 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          BTN: 64,576 (21.5 bb)
          SB: 21,940 (7.3 bb)
          BB: 49,280 (16.4 bb)
          UTG: 68,861 (23 bb)
          Hero (MP): 29,139 (9.7 bb)
          CO: 36,204 (12.1 bb)

          Preflop: (1,800) Hero is MP with 9 K
          1 fold Hero?



          Also, what type of adjustments should I be making once I hit a FT? I've heard a couple of good players say that they've never used an ICM program before and others swear by them. I'm a bit confused.

          Cheers
          08-07-2011 , 05:24 PM
          This is the final table of a 18 man sng, one of the first hand so no reads but probably a standard table for this level

          How do you play this spot?

          Feels like you can do everything, push, raise/call, raise/fold, open fold?

            Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10190722

            SB: 2,805 (14 bb)
            BB: 2,695 (13.5 bb)
            UTG+1: 1,605 (8 bb)
            Hero (UTG+2): 2,930 (14.7 bb)
            MP1: 2,165 (10.8 bb)
            MP2: 5,970 (29.9 bb)
            MP3: 5,065 (25.3 bb)
            CO: 2,380 (11.9 bb)
            BTN: 1,385 (6.9 bb)

            Preflop: (225) Hero is UTG+2 with A T
            1 folds, Hero ?




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            08-07-2011 , 10:44 PM
            45man turbo, 10 players left. What should my pushing range be here?

              Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10191402

              SB: 4,771 (11.9 bb)
              BB: 6,355 (15.9 bb)
              UTG: 6,882 (17.2 bb)
              MP: 3,518 (8.8 bb)
              CO: 4,015 (10 bb)
              Hero (BTN): 4,180 (10.5 bb)

              Preflop: (150) Hero is BTN with T Q
              3 folds, Hero raises to 4,155 and is all-in, 2 folds




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