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Old 11-01-2011, 09:19 AM   #101
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

Hey there. I'm planning on moving from cash games back to MTT's and to really focus on the $4.50 180s. I was considering buying SnGWiz, but I knida got the impression that it's more focused towards 9 man SnG's or turbo tourneys (I prefer normal speed)? Is it still worth the investment? Seems like I may as well, $99 for a potentially massive improvement in my game, just wanted a 2nd opinion.

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Old 11-01-2011, 04:20 PM   #102
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

Long term if you use it (correctly), in general yes. Just get the trial and make the most of it for now?
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:03 PM   #103
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Long term if you use it (correctly), in general yes. Just get the trial and make the most of it for now?
Thanks for your reply, your help is much appreciated. You said "correctly". What kind of things exactly would you focus on if you were just gonna play 180s with some larger MTT's mixed in?
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:06 PM   #104
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Well you have to learn how to use it basically.. I wasn't even talking about using it correctly in the sense that you work on the right parts of your game, although that's important too. For example, using the right mode at the right times (cEV or $EV), knowing when you can shove a bit wider than is profitable according to cEV/$EV like when you are super short etc and what edge to set and so on. There is quite a bit to just explain here but it's not too hard either. There should be a bunch of threads talking about this and FAQs in SNG wiz prob help too. Basically if you use it blindly then it won't be helpful/you will learn incorrect and bad ranges etc. gl
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:58 AM   #105
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Hey guys, so I've been playing 2.2$ 180-mans and 3.2$ 45-mans recently and while I had a pretty good start, I've lost a ****load of money last 2 days. I'm not sure if there is something wrong with my play or if it's just variance... I think I have a pretty good understanding of push/fold ranges and when I review my sessions with SNGwiz I don't make too much mistakes.

When I look at my chip EV graph, I run bad and since I have PT3 and not HEM, I can't see my chip EV adjusted... How close those two are?

Here is my 2 graphs:





So is this standard variance? The thing is I'm losing like 50-100$ every session... if this continues I'll be broke soon (550 BR atm)
Maybe you should reduce the amount of tables for a bit, really think about each move. soon your book a win and your be back on track again, not point in mass tabling your bankroll away.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:40 AM   #106
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

180 man sng. Using the nash calculator what structure are you guys using when your calculating for the last 3 remaining players?
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:00 AM   #107
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

Is there a reason to alter defaults?
0.3,0.2,0.119,.08,.065,.05,.035,.026,0.017
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:10 PM   #108
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Pros and cons with showing vipstatus? Platinumstar for example.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:26 PM   #109
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I dont think there is any pros in showing your VIPstatus. Your giving away info that you dont have too.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:28 PM   #110
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Is there a reason to alter defaults?
0.3,0.2,0.119,.08,.065,.05,.035,.026,0.017
my default is 0.3,0.2,0.1

so what if its four handed do you keep the defaults the same then?
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:20 PM   #111
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Not sure what you mean.
You have the 9 handet structure. It covers all.
4 handet if you need to gain time? input smt like
0.3,0.2,0.119,.08 or
0.3,0.2,0.12,.08

You prob know that sngwiz has an option under tools tab to send hand to the nash calc.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:47 PM   #112
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

Is there an updated article or list showing the expected roi per stake nowadays?

180man sry
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:06 AM   #113
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Not sure what you mean.
You have the 9 handet structure. It covers all.
4 handet if you need to gain time? input smt like
0.3,0.2,0.119,.08 or
0.3,0.2,0.12,.08

You prob know that sngwiz has an option under tools tab to send hand to the nash calc.
havent bought wiz yet
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:07 AM   #114
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Is there an updated article or list showing the expected roi per stake nowadays?

180man sry
guess you could play a few thousand games, prolly the best way to find out
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:40 AM   #115
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guess you could play a few thousand games, prolly the best way to find out
fair enough, pretty helpful advice there
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:18 AM   #116
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

dont know how helpful people are going to be. everyone is going to have different ROI even 'these days' plus there are different buyin and the ROI is aways going to decrease as the stakes rise plus how many tables will you be playing because that will effect it aswell, do you play weekdays, weekend or both, what time do you play, all this will effect the ROI. I doubt anyone can give you a figure like 'you will earn this much'
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:57 PM   #117
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guess you could play more than ten thousand games, prolly the best way to find out
FYP
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:14 PM   #118
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All i meant was avg's, like on 9man they say under $5 should be between 10-15%,between $5-15 7-10% etc
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Old 11-06-2011, 02:22 PM   #119
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

http://members.cox.net/wastrel333/Pushbot%20Charts1.pdf
are those unexploitable cEV pushes accurate ?
or i can find some better tables , i more or less know it by heart but i want to check myself in some spots
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:15 AM   #120
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

final table $2.50 180 man
2 short stacks are just waiting for someone to bust. SB is a good reg who picks this spots. BB is crazy, got the chip lead from me by pushing Q7o after i min raised utg with AJo. I'm i better folding this given the stack sizes


    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10983402

    BTN: 14,439 (2.9 bb)
    SB: 71,852 (14.4 bb)
    BB: 126,434 (25.3 bb)
    MP: 14,878 (3 bb)
    Hero (CO): 42,397 (8.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 3 3
    MP folds, Hero raises to 41,897 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB raises to 71,352 and is all-in, BB folds

    Flop: (91,294) Q 4 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (91,294) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (91,294) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    Old 11-07-2011, 05:18 AM   #121
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    The two short stacks look worse when you convert it!
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    Old 11-08-2011, 06:42 PM   #122
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

    $35/180 FT, what's your calling range here against a good reg?

    he jammed previous bvb hand.

    i've been tight on FT thus far.


    Poker Stars, $32.13 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10995392

    SB: 29,880 (7.5 bb)
    Hero (BB): 32,526 (8.1 bb)
    UTG: 17,452 (4.4 bb)
    MP: 91,962 (23 bb)
    CO: 47,402 (11.9 bb)
    BTN: 50,778 (12.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with
    4 folds, SB raises to 29,480 and is all-in, Hero
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    Old 11-08-2011, 07:01 PM   #123
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    33 closeish but should be fine

    35ft pretty qide esp if you are unknown to him a good reg is prob atc with this stack size so just set on wiz and call similarly/accordingly. yes i know there is a little icm in the spot
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    Old 11-11-2011, 01:42 PM   #124
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

    what sort of rois can regs acheive in the 15% 45 mans?

    and my roi is roughly 14% in the 7s what will that translate to at the 15s?
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    Old 11-12-2011, 12:42 AM   #125
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    What is your sample size?

    I really don't think there is a lot of difference between the $7s and $15s ($7s maybe a little fishier).

    The guys at the top of the SS leaderboard (for $5 - $15, so both buy ins) seem to be about 12-15%.
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