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07-29-2013 , 08:16 PM
The 180s are good if you have the roll to play at least $8 and $3.50r 180man. I just think if you are stuck with (for example) 800$ roll i would much rather play 3.50$ 9man hypers or $7 9man hypers, bc you can move up so much faster (lower br required) and mix/switch/tableselect games so much faster. But maybe thats just me, bc i have played alot of 9man sngs in my life and found them always like a kind of safe haven compared to how i feel if i play only 180man and mtts. Has to do alot with playing unstaked on a smallish roll and the goddamn variance, not even that im not a big winner in these games.

The biggest problems are that there is such a huge gap in buyin between $2.50 and $8 180man turbos, so that you need to win and endless amount of buyins to move up to the $8s. Sure, if you mix the games clever you can make alot in 180s, but i would urgently stay away from playing 2.50s exclusively. I would use my first upswing in them to immidiately taking shots to higher 180man or play another game than this. Just my 2c, do whatever you like.

Last edited by siebenacht; 07-29-2013 at 08:27 PM.
08-01-2013 , 06:02 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18703281

    BTN: 2,255 (22.6 bb)
    SB: 2,820 (28.2 bb)
    BB: 1,485 (14.9 bb)
    MP1: 570 (5.7 bb)
    MP2: 4,200 (42 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 1,860 (18.6 bb)
    CO: 3,145 (31.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 2 2
    2 folds, Hero raises to 281, 3 folds, BB raises to 1,485 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,204

    Flop: (3,020) K 3 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (3,020) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (3,020) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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    08-02-2013 , 10:45 AM
    way too loose readless
    08-02-2013 , 09:47 PM
    Just open fold pre.
    08-03-2013 , 12:19 PM
      Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18710691

      BTN: 37,866 (15.1 bb)
      SB: 30,611 (12.2 bb)
      Hero (BB): 39,709 (15.9 bb)
      UTG: 39,654 (15.9 bb)
      MP: 28,558 (11.4 bb)
      CO: 93,602 (37.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q K
      2 folds, CO raises to 5,000, BTN calls 5,000, SB folds




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      OR is lag and def shoving it in his face, then fish joins, who has been relatively quite for an orbit or so and i guess i have to consider calling.. but im pretty sure i still have to gii, its the ft obv
      08-03-2013 , 12:21 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Ronnieryb
        Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18703281

        BTN: 2,255 (22.6 bb)
        SB: 2,820 (28.2 bb)
        BB: 1,485 (14.9 bb)
        MP1: 570 (5.7 bb)
        MP2: 4,200 (42 bb)
        Hero (MP3): 1,860 (18.6 bb)
        CO: 3,145 (31.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 2 2
        2 folds, Hero raises to 281, 3 folds, BB raises to 1,485 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,204

        Flop: (3,020) K 3 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: (3,020) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (3,020) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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        yea openfold is best, if you still want to openraise, make it 2xbb
        08-03-2013 , 12:26 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Hookt
        These are my first 1000 $2.50 180-man tournaments. I'm pretty new to grinding tournaments but I've played poker for a few years with moderate success. Mainly LHE and PLO. Obviously I ran like Jesus on water in the beginning but I'm getting the feeling that I really have to run great to make any money grinding these since it's so top heavy in payouts.

        I guess my main question is if this a super standard 1000 games stretch?

        no, though these are not uncommon, maybe work on your shortstackgame, i have to add that it should be running fine and well after a 1000 games

        how long did these take and how many tables on average are you playing at a time?
        08-03-2013 , 12:32 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by gefrag
          Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          : 30,193 (25.2 bb)
          : 35,938 (29.9 bb)
          : 23,015 (19.2 bb)
          : 10,042 (8.4 bb)
          : 13,955 (11.6 bb)
          BTN: 61,406 (51.2 bb)
          SB: 45,227 (37.7 bb)
          BB: 38,070 (31.7 bb)
          Hero: 12,154 (10.1 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is with 3 3


          It's the final table. Inactive for a couple of orbits and card dead. Do you shove this? Shoving range from this position and those stacks? Thanks.
          if it was a turbo, it would be worth a bit of a discussion, a discussion that has come by and gone for so many times now, in this format i think a fold is best, 66/77 is smthn to think about, maybe even 55, 88 is just a gii imo

          AQo+, ATs, KQs or smthn like that, not always sure about exact ranges, think I shove QJs as well

          Last edited by JellyDonQuitar; 08-03-2013 at 12:42 PM. Reason: think ATo+, A8s+ is maybe better, again not sure, but those in my post seem too tight
          08-03-2013 , 12:38 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
          both fine

          how come BB's PFR is higher then his VPIP?
          raised every hand he plays and prolly played a limped pot from the bb
          08-10-2013 , 08:07 AM
          PokerStars - $3.16+$0.34|400/800 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 4 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

          BB: 10,130.00
          UTG: 9,160.00
          Hero (BTN): 3,130.00
          SB: 4,580.00

          BB posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 400.00, BB posts BB 800.00

          Pre Flop: (1400.00) Hero has K Q

          UTG raises to 1,680.00, Hero raises to 3,080.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, UTG calls 1,400.00

          Flop: (7560.00, 2 players) 9 5 9

          Turn: (7560.00, 2 players) 8

          River: (7560.00, 2 players) A

          right move?
          08-10-2013 , 08:10 AM
          PokerStars - $6.37+$0.63|75/150 NL - Holdem - 7 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

          UTG: 7,524.00
          UTG+1: 3,271.00
          MP: 1,119.00
          CO: 5,633.00
          BTN: 4,166.00
          SB: 3,667.00
          Hero (BB): 1,620.00

          SB posts SB 75.00, Hero posts BB 150.00

          Pre Flop: (225.00) Hero has A 9

          fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3,667.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,470.00 and is all-in

          Flop: (3240.00, 2 players) 2 4 4

          Turn: (3240.00, 2 players) T

          River: (3240.00, 2 players) 7

          right move?
          08-10-2013 , 08:12 AM
          PokerStars - $6.45+$0.55|200/400 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

          UTG: 3,102.00
          UTG+1: 2,415.00
          MP: 4,993.00
          MP+1: 1,207.00
          LP: 3,750.00
          CO: 5,300.00
          Hero (BTN): 2,535.00
          SB: 2,093.00
          BB: 1,605.00

          UTG posts ante 25.00, UTG+1 posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, MP+1 posts ante 25.00, LP posts ante 25.00, CO posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 200.00, BB posts BB 400.00

          Pre Flop: (825.00) Hero has A Q

          fold, UTG+1 raises to 2,390.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2,510.00 and is all-in, fold, fold

          Flop: (5605.00, 2 players) 5 3 J

          Turn: (5605.00, 2 players) 9

          River: (5605.00, 2 players) 4

          right move?
          08-10-2013 , 10:56 AM
          All 3 seem good.
          08-10-2013 , 11:51 AM
          Is it possible to build a bankroll with $0.50 90 and 45man games?
          08-11-2013 , 04:08 AM
          very dumb spot but meh I'll ask anyway.

          What's your usual play here ? with what ace do you CR the crowd here ? I'm thinking A9o, fold to a reraise keep barreling anything but a spade.

          PokerStars Hand #102595427427: Tournament #772776376, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2013/08/11 4:04:07 ET
          Table '772776376 17' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
          Seat 1: Kékalma (1510 in chips)
          Seat 2: simin71 (1760 in chips)
          Seat 3: Annushka_nsk (720 in chips)
          Seat 4: siwolong10 (1350 in chips)
          Seat 5: Svabbzor (1400 in chips)
          Seat 6: Atze_46 (2030 in chips)
          Seat 7: frnnic (1905 in chips) is sitting out
          Seat 8: @ANAVI@301 (1325 in chips)
          Seat 9: HERO (1500 in chips)
          @ANAVI@301: posts small blind 15
          HERO: posts big blind 30
          *** HOLE CARDS ***
          Dealt to HERO [2d Ad]
          Kékalma: calls 30
          simin71: folds
          Annushka_nsk: folds
          siwolong10: calls 30
          Svabbzor: folds
          Atze_46: calls 30
          frnnic: folds
          @ANAVI@301: calls 15
          HERO: checks
          *** FLOP *** [8s As 4c]
          @ANAVI@301: checks
          HERO: checks
          Kékalma: checks
          frnnic has returned
          siwolong10: bets 30
          Atze_46: calls 30
          @ANAVI@301: calls 30
          HERO: ??
          08-12-2013 , 04:59 PM
          PokerStars - $3.16+$0.34|150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 5 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

          Hero (CO): 3,970.00
          BTN: 2,549.00
          SB: 6,237.00
          BB: 9,014.00
          UTG: 5,230.00

          Hero posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 150.00, BB posts BB 300.00

          Pre Flop: (575.00) Hero has T A

          fold, Hero raises to 600.00, fold, fold, BB calls 300.00

          Flop: (1475.00, 2 players) Q T 5
          BB checks, Hero bets 600.00, BB calls 600.00

          Turn: (2675.00, 2 players) 6
          BB checks, Hero checks

          River: (2675.00, 2 players) 3
          BB bets 600.00, Hero calls 600.00

          well played or which line should i take either?
          08-14-2013 , 05:27 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by PaperWings
          PokerStars - $3.16+$0.34|150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 5 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

          Hero (CO): 3,970.00
          BTN: 2,549.00
          SB: 6,237.00
          BB: 9,014.00
          UTG: 5,230.00

          Hero posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 150.00, BB posts BB 300.00

          Pre Flop: (575.00) Hero has T A

          fold, Hero raises to 600.00, fold, fold, BB calls 300.00

          Flop: (1475.00, 2 players) Q T 5
          BB checks, Hero bets 600.00, BB calls 600.00

          Turn: (2675.00, 2 players) 6
          BB checks, Hero checks

          River: (2675.00, 2 players) 3
          BB bets 600.00, Hero calls 600.00

          well played or which line should i take either?
          jamming pre, or as you played it is fine.
          08-14-2013 , 05:29 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by BABARtheELEPHANT
          very dumb spot but meh I'll ask anyway.

          What's your usual play here ? with what ace do you CR the crowd here ? I'm thinking A9o, fold to a reraise keep barreling anything but a spade.

          PokerStars Hand #102595427427: Tournament #772776376, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2013/08/11 4:04:07 ET
          Table '772776376 17' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
          Seat 1: Kékalma (1510 in chips)
          Seat 2: simin71 (1760 in chips)
          Seat 3: Annushka_nsk (720 in chips)
          Seat 4: siwolong10 (1350 in chips)
          Seat 5: Svabbzor (1400 in chips)
          Seat 6: Atze_46 (2030 in chips)
          Seat 7: frnnic (1905 in chips) is sitting out
          Seat 8: @ANAVI@301 (1325 in chips)
          Seat 9: HERO (1500 in chips)
          @ANAVI@301: posts small blind 15
          HERO: posts big blind 30
          *** HOLE CARDS ***
          Dealt to HERO [2d Ad]
          Kékalma: calls 30
          simin71: folds
          Annushka_nsk: folds
          siwolong10: calls 30
          Svabbzor: folds
          Atze_46: calls 30
          frnnic: folds
          @ANAVI@301: calls 15
          HERO: checks
          *** FLOP *** [8s As 4c]
          @ANAVI@301: checks
          HERO: checks
          Kékalma: checks
          frnnic has returned
          siwolong10: bets 30
          Atze_46: calls 30
          @ANAVI@301: calls 30
          HERO: ??
          just call, hope you spike a 2
          08-19-2013 , 04:32 AM
          I should be slow playing this right?


          PokerStars - $2.28+$0.22|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

          BB: 3,850 (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
          UTG: 11,325 (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
          UTG+1: 13,110 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
          Hero (MP): 4,466
          MP+1: 3,452 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
          CO: 8,300 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
          BTN: 1,920 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
          SB: 3,735 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

          8 players post ante of 50, SB posts SB 200, BB posts BB 400

          Pre Flop: (pot: 1,000) Hero has K K

          fold, UTG+1 raises to 1,200, Hero calls 1,200, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

          Flop: (3,400, 2 players) 2 K 4
          UTG+1 bets 1,600, Hero raises to 3,200, fold
          08-19-2013 , 10:38 AM
          anything but jamming pre is horrible.

          if you call pre, you have to only call flop.
          08-19-2013 , 05:21 PM
          Is this a call from the big blind with K9o?

          Bubble of $15 27 man. Top 5 get paid.

          Guessing CO is stealing and pretty wide, but when SB calls, are we thinking innit to winnit or fold and hope CO hits?

          Poker Stars $13.70+$1.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
          DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

          UTG: t2315 15.43 BBs
          MP: t10609 70.73 BBs
          CO: t2574 17.16 BBs
          BTN: t1085 7.23 BBs
          SB: t1020 6.80 BBs
          BB: t753 5.02 BBs

          Pre Flop: (t225)
          2 folds, CO raises to t2574 all in, 1 fold, SB calls t945 all in, BB calls t603 all in

          Flop: (t2793) 8 J 2 (3 players - 3 are all in)

          Turn: (t2793) K (3 players - 3 are all in)

          River: (t2793) 9 (3 players - 3 are all in)

          Spoiler:
          Final Pot: t2793
          CO shows Th Kc (a pair of Kings)
          SB shows Ad Js (a pair of Jacks)
          BB shows Kd 9c (two pair, Kings and Nines)
          CO wins t534
          BB wins t2259

          Last edited by slane; 08-19-2013 at 05:29 PM. Reason: 27man
          08-20-2013 , 12:14 AM
          Villain is fish and I am wondering did I missed value by not shoving river here?

          http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...853_74699E3B3F
          08-22-2013 , 07:48 AM
          Villain seems like a fish which is trying to push me off the hand. I don't think he would play this way if he have a straight. I am putting him overpair, draws and five.

          Would you call?


          PokerStars - $2.28+$0.22|1000/2000 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 5 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

          UTG: 13,342 (VPIP: 36.11, PFR: 36.36, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 37)
          Hero (CO): 16,432
          BTN: 40,634 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 22.99, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 91)
          SB: 44,800 (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
          BB: 34,738 (VPIP: 29.09, PFR: 20.37, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 55)

          5 players post ante of 200, SB posts SB 1,000, BB posts BB 2,000

          Pre Flop: (pot: 4,000) Hero has Q 7

          fold, Hero raises to 4,000, fold, fold, BB calls 2,000

          Flop: (10,000, 2 players) 8 7 5
          BB bets 14,000, fold
          08-23-2013 , 02:29 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by slane
          Is this a call from the big blind with K9o?

          Bubble of $15 27 man. Top 5 get paid.

          Guessing CO is stealing and pretty wide, but when SB calls, are we thinking innit to winnit or fold and hope CO hits?

          Poker Stars $13.70+$1.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
          DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

          UTG: t2315 15.43 BBs
          MP: t10609 70.73 BBs
          CO: t2574 17.16 BBs
          BTN: t1085 7.23 BBs
          SB: t1020 6.80 BBs
          BB: t753 5.02 BBs

          Pre Flop: (t225)
          2 folds, CO raises to t2574 all in, 1 fold, SB calls t945 all in, BB calls t603 all in

          Flop: (t2793) 8 J 2 (3 players - 3 are all in)

          Turn: (t2793) K (3 players - 3 are all in)

          River: (t2793) 9 (3 players - 3 are all in)

          Spoiler:
          Final Pot: t2793
          CO shows Th Kc (a pair of Kings)
          SB shows Ad Js (a pair of Jacks)
          BB shows Kd 9c (two pair, Kings and Nines)
          CO wins t534
          BB wins t2259
          fold
          08-23-2013 , 02:46 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Tarkyo
          Villain seems like a fish which is trying to push me off the hand. I don't think he would play this way if he have a straight. I am putting him overpair, draws and five.

          Would you call?


          PokerStars - $2.28+$0.22|1000/2000 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 5 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

          UTG: 13,342 (VPIP: 36.11, PFR: 36.36, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 37)
          Hero (CO): 16,432
          BTN: 40,634 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 22.99, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 91)
          SB: 44,800 (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
          BB: 34,738 (VPIP: 29.09, PFR: 20.37, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 55)

          5 players post ante of 200, SB posts SB 1,000, BB posts BB 2,000

          Pre Flop: (pot: 4,000) Hero has Q 7

          fold, Hero raises to 4,000, fold, fold, BB calls 2,000

          Flop: (10,000, 2 players) 8 7 5
          BB bets 14,000, fold
          You're mistake was not pushing pre.

          As played you have to call now.

                
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