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Old 04-12-2012, 05:47 PM   #301
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

Do we call here vs a random? 90 hands on villain and he's running at 36/7. What if he's a reg? What are our ranges in this spot?


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    MP2: 4,021 (5 bb)
    MP3: 6,503 (8.1 bb)
    CO: 20,402 (25.5 bb)
    BTN: 13,172 (16.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): 6,445 (8.1 bb)
    BB: 1,467 (1.8 bb)
    UTG+2: 7,002 (8.8 bb)
    MP1: 5,425 (6.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A 8
    UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to 5,350 and is all-in, 4 folds
    Hero: ?



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    Old 04-12-2012, 06:03 PM   #302
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    Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

    Villain here is a decent reg and this is about the 10th hand at the FT. Folding seems weak, seems like a really good spot for shoving because villain must call really narrow here, 3b/c I like for the reason above and also because it looks so strong. Calling is an option too. Any thoughts? Would we say.. 3b/c>reshoving>calling>folding?

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      BTN: 46,784 (6.7 bb)
      SB: 45,528 (6.5 bb)
      Hero (BB): 315,650 (45.1 bb)
      UTG+2: 110,022 (15.7 bb)
      MP1: 62,011 (8.9 bb)
      MP2: 36,754 (5.3 bb)
      MP3: 76,672 (11 bb)
      CO: 192,579 (27.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
      UTG+2 raises to 14,210, 6 folds, Hero: ?




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      Old 04-16-2012, 03:11 PM   #303
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      you cant 't fold here. Push de AQ, villian has a huge bubble factor and AK should be a fold on his side and even if he calls and wins, you still have a stack


      the A8 might be a thin call, don't think a 36/7 looks as a reg. I'd insta call if blinds are just about to go up
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      Old 04-21-2012, 02:12 PM   #304
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

      which is a good volume per day in 45man?
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      Old 04-22-2012, 12:56 PM   #305
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      Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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        MP3: 39,066 (32.6 bb)
        CO: 17,055 (14.2 bb)
        BTN: 3,325 (2.8 bb)
        SB: 13,014 (10.8 bb)
        BB: 12,555 (10.5 bb)
        UTG+1: 12,280 (10.2 bb)
        Hero (UTG+2): 12,897 (10.7 bb)
        MP1: 28,435 (23.7 bb)
        MP2: 18,295 (15.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q K
        UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 12,772 and is all-in, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 18,170 and is all-in, 5 folds

        Flop: (28,469) Q 5 T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        Turn: (28,469) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        River: (28,469) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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        SNap shove? What should be a proper shoving range ins this pre FT early pos. situations
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        Old 04-23-2012, 12:08 AM   #306
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        Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

        Snap shove indeed. I think i shove like any pp, a suited ace from A6s and higher, KJs+,
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        Old 04-26-2012, 04:32 AM   #307
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        Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

          Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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          MP2: 806 (8.1 bb)
          MP3: 5,755 (57.6 bb)
          CO: 1,684 (16.8 bb)
          Hero (BTN): 1,445 (14.5 bb)
          SB: 2,144 (21.4 bb)
          BB: 5,160 (51.6 bb)
          UTG+2: 1,688 (16.9 bb)
          MP1: 1,420 (14.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with K Q
          2 folds, MP2 raises to 806 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,445 and is all-in, 2 folds

          Flop: (1,762) 4 A 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          Turn: (1,762) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          River: (1,762) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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          Is this stand. reshove against regulars?
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          Old 05-13-2012, 10:21 AM   #308
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          Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

          There is so many bankroll suggestions that it is hard to pick one. I am thinking about 45man sngs.

          I was thinking, how big of a bankroll do i need if im playing -16 tables ?
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          Old 05-14-2012, 04:24 AM   #309
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          Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

          Hi, hope this is the correct thread...
          Where can I find some thread about pokerstars 18 man (turbo) strategy?? Can't find anything..
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          Old 05-14-2012, 06:18 AM   #310
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          Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

          HU of a 45s regular (10 min levels). The Villain has me covered 2-to-1, so we're 30BB effective. He starts to push 100% of his hands. What range do we call? 40%? 30%?
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          Old 05-15-2012, 10:11 PM   #311
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          Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

          He's jamming every hand?

          Leaning towards 40%, and a little bit wider to include more Qx and Kx hands.
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          Old 05-16-2012, 05:59 AM   #312
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          Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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          He's jamming every hand?

          Leaning towards 40%, and a little bit wider to include more Qx and Kx hands.
          yes. every hand, no post flop play, open pushes BTN, jams after I raise BTN
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          Old 05-16-2012, 12:23 PM   #313
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          Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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          Villain here is a decent reg and this is about the 10th hand at the FT. Folding seems weak, seems like a really good spot for shoving because villain must call really narrow here, 3b/c I like for the reason above and also because it looks so strong. Calling is an option too. Any thoughts? Would we say.. 3b/c>reshoving>calling>folding?

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            BTN: 46,784 (6.7 bb)
            SB: 45,528 (6.5 bb)
            Hero (BB): 315,650 (45.1 bb)
            UTG+2: 110,022 (15.7 bb)
            MP1: 62,011 (8.9 bb)
            MP2: 36,754 (5.3 bb)
            MP3: 76,672 (11 bb)
            CO: 192,579 (27.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
            UTG+2 raises to 14,210, 6 folds, Hero: ?




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            reshoves 99+/AQo+
            3b/c seems worse to me, he is not 4b/shoving real worse hands. we could 3b call if he had 25bbs and opening from HJ
            calling seems ok too, less variance
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            Old 05-16-2012, 12:33 PM   #314
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            Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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            HU of a 45s regular (10 min levels). The Villain has me covered 2-to-1, so we're 30BB effective. He starts to push 100% of his hands. What range do we call? 40%? 30%?
            If he is doing that, I guess he sucks a ton.
            I would lean towards not getting into 55/45 of 52/48 situations and fold some hands who could be good according to pokerstove. would search for some 60/40 type of edge so that's 35% of hands

            Board:
            Dead:

            equity win tie pots won pots tied
            Hand 0: 60.037% 58.72% 01.32% 593661935580 13326200734.00 { 22+, A2s+, K3s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A4o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }
            Hand 1: 39.963% 38.65% 01.32% 390715559752 13326200734.00 { random }
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            Old 05-16-2012, 02:10 PM   #315
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            Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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            If he is doing that, I guess he sucks a ton.
            I would lean towards not getting into 55/45 of 52/48 situations and fold some hands who could be good according to pokerstove. would search for some 60/40 type of edge so that's 35% of hands

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            equity win tie pots won pots tied
            Hand 0: 60.037% 58.72% 01.32% 593661935580 13326200734.00 { 22+, A2s+, K3s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A4o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }
            Hand 1: 39.963% 38.65% 01.32% 390715559752 13326200734.00 { random }
            thx, I remember I didn't call him that wide, just once with KJo and finished him with a no brainer AKo, rest I had was total junk so I was just thinking how wide should I call
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            Old 05-16-2012, 04:16 PM   #316
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            Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

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            If he is doing that, I guess he sucks a ton.
            I would lean towards not getting into 55/45 of 52/48 situations and fold some hands who could be good according to pokerstove. would search for some 60/40 type of edge so that's 35% of hands

            Board:
            Dead:

            equity win tie pots won pots tied
            Hand 0: 60.037% 58.72% 01.32% 593661935580 13326200734.00 { 22+, A2s+, K3s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A4o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }
            Hand 1: 39.963% 38.65% 01.32% 390715559752 13326200734.00 { random }

            you're doing it wrong.

            just stove each weak hand against a random hand, not the whole range. i.e. 87s only has 48% vs a random hand, so you wouldn't call with that would you?
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            Old 05-16-2012, 05:59 PM   #317
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            yeah lol wtf was I doing. hangover.........
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            Old 05-16-2012, 06:01 PM   #318
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            Old 05-17-2012, 06:17 AM   #319
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            Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

            I stoved the range for at least 59.xxx%+ and that's what I got.
            If we're looking for 60% spots against a random shoving monkey, the range looks like this:
            {55+, K9s+, KTo+, A8o+, A5s+, QTs+}
            The whole range is 65% against a random shoving hand.
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            Old 05-22-2012, 09:23 AM   #320
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            Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

            Does any1 have a clue of the formula for SNG wizard pushing ranges?

            BvB it's simple:

            EV = dead_money * FE + (1-FE) [ (2*smallest_stack + dead_money) * equity_win (pokerstove) - (smallest_stack) * equity_lose(pokerstove) ]

            But if we are in BU, I simple don't get it. I think general EV = EV_SB + EV_BB + EV_SB&BB (both in the pot at the same time).

            Thanks.
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            Old 05-27-2012, 04:06 AM   #321
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              BTN: 56,243 (14.1 bb)
              SB: 10,867 (2.7 bb)
              Hero (BB): 71,135 (17.8 bb)
              UTG+2: 30,155 (7.5 bb)
              MP1: 41,056 (10.3 bb)
              MP2: 16,893 (4.2 bb)
              MP3: 24,086 (6 bb)
              CO: 10,712 (2.7 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 8
              2 folds, MP2 raises to 16,493 and is all-in, 3 folds, SB calls 8,467 and is all-in, Hero folds

              Flop: (28,134) Q 7 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
              Turn: (28,134) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
              River: (28,134) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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              is this a call? what range we should be calling?
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              Old 05-28-2012, 03:12 AM   #322
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              Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

              i have 10bbs (antes are in) w/ pocket 77 and unknown ships hes 10bb from MP. call or fold?

              i have 3bbs from CO w/ lets say A2s, 89s, K9o and MP raises. im going in?
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              Old 06-01-2012, 08:37 AM   #323
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              Yes for both.
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              Old 06-06-2012, 05:34 PM   #324
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              Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

              Villain in BB is a good aggressive reg. This is like 20 left in a $3r 180. What do you guys prefer here?


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              CO: 13,902 (7 bb)
              BTN: 18,758 (9.4 bb)
              Hero (SB): 41,951 (21 bb)
              BB: 45,525 (22.8 bb)
              UTG+2: 15,133 (7.6 bb)
              MP1: 15,704 (7.9 bb)
              MP2: 18,998 (9.5 bb)
              MP3: 33,184 (16.6 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with A 7
              6 folds, Hero
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              Old 06-07-2012, 09:52 PM   #325
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              depends how you think he perceives your game both options are fine depending on that
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