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Nut flush on paired board - 3.50+r 180plr Nut flush on paired board - 3.50+r 180plr

11-20-2013 , 09:38 AM
V early in a £3.50+r turbo 180player

PokerStars - $3.19+$0.31|15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 1,175 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (SB): 4,361
BB: 2,970 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 1,395 (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 9)
UTG+1: 2,930 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+2: 1,207 (VPIP: 88.89, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 2,782 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP+1: 3,386 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 3,794 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

Hero posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has A K

UTG raises to 60, fold, fold, MP raises to 210, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 195, fold, UTG calls 150

Flop: (660, 3 players) T T 4
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

Turn: (660, 3 players) 7
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets 232, Hero calls 232, UTG calls 232

River: (1,356, 3 players) 3

Action here?

Is it as simple as bet/fold?

Or is anyone bet/calling?

Is anyone check/calling? (or even check-raising? )
11-20-2013 , 10:15 AM
pre I'm not sure about. I hate calling for almost 10% effective stack oop, also with UTG every chance of jamming.

Flop is good.

I don't mind leading the turn. Check calling is ok to.

River I lead against two players, thinking one will call. Never just check calling (if you are going to check you need to check raise). Never ever bet folding. Don't be scared to get your stack in on that board.
11-20-2013 , 10:28 AM
I only called pre as I was never folding AKs pre just to a 3bet but I was unsure about 4betting as I think the only hands that would flat or 5bet would be JJ+ which I don't like flipping against (as a slight dog) with stacks so deep.
Agreed sucks to be oop, but I think a call and re-evaluate on flop is the best line here. If UTG shoves, MP calls/re-shoves I fold. If UTG shoves, MP folds then I call.

Results sooooooon
11-20-2013 , 02:49 PM
I am bet calling river. Think you played the hand fine. If MP has quads then gg.
11-20-2013 , 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by t0pb1ll1n
Results sooooooon
Results are irrelevant.

I assume you got coolered.
11-20-2013 , 05:39 PM
Think I'm probably jamming that pre, as played bet/call river.
11-20-2013 , 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corpsey
Think I'm probably jamming that pre, as played bet/call river.
Not jamming pre this deep. AKs comes along less often than AA/KK but not enough equity with this hand facing his action.
I bet 600 on the river saying I am folding to a raise cos I'm never facing worse. As it happened I didn't have the willpower/execution to actually bet/fold which I KNEW was the right move. So I bet/called his all-in and he showed TT.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaggleboney
I am bet calling river. Think you played the hand fine. If MP has quads then gg.
I put him on JJ+ but had in consideration that TT was in his range. 99 was not as heavily weighted imo.
I called LDO.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Results are irrelevant.

I assume you got coolered.
I did NOT get coolered.

I called knowing he had TT + (very rarely) 77 and I still called. That is NOT fudge factor. That is BAD poker.

Surely this is what separates crushing players from slightly winning players...
11-21-2013 , 03:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by t0pb1ll1n



I did NOT get coolered.

I called knowing he had TT + (very rarely) 77 and I still called. That is NOT fudge factor. That is BAD poker.

Surely this is what separates crushing players from slightly winning players...
Putting him on TT and 77 is not a reasonable range. There are so many other hands in villains range. He is also more likely to have 77 than TT in this spot. Quads are not common and you would not be making a mistake in your poker career if you ruled out of your opponent range flopped quads on a paired board in every hand you play.

If he had one of these two hands it is a cooler.
11-21-2013 , 05:39 AM
Def lead river
11-22-2013 , 08:37 PM
K I was a bit drunk when I wrote my last comment, got a bit carried away lol.

Maybe it is a cooler - nut flush vs quads or unlikely full house, however I stand by my point that when I bet I said to myself he isn't raising with JJ+ he is just calling, so if he raises I have to fold.

I don't think I'm being results-oriented here I think it is a bet/fold.

      
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