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11-29-2011 , 05:59 PM

robwa

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 483

Me and villain both have big stack we are at last 11 or some.
I've seen him shove QJo already.
Are we calling his shove?
I thought it was pretty borderline, and I made the call?
Should I?
Call range 77+,KQo+,KJs+,AJo+,ATs+ any thoughts?

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players

SB: 10,138 (5.1 bb)
Hero (BB): 32,268 (16.1 bb)
UTG: 15,570 (7.8 bb)
MP: 11,812 (5.9 bb)
CO: 22,851 (11.4 bb)
BTN: 39,825 (19.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

3 folds, BTN raises to 39,625 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls 30,068 and is all-in

11-29-2011 , 07:04 PM

islander32

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 345

He'd have to be an absolute nit to make this a fold. good call ul

11-29-2011 , 07:13 PM

liamof

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 350

Stacks are a bit deep, you can probably remove the top of his range, at least some of the time

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.791% 46.72% 02.07% 899147562 39908006.00 { AcAd, AcAh, AdAh, KcKd, KcKh, KdKh, QcQd, QcQh, QdQh, JJ-22, AhKh, AsKs, AQs-A2s, K7s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKh, AdKs, AhKs, AQo-A6o, KTo+, QTo+ }
Hand 1: 51.209% 49.13% 02.07% 945666122 39908006.00 { KQs }

With the dead money it's a clear call. Your range looks fine, maybe add A8s+, ATo

12-02-2011 , 07:54 AM

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,060

problem is you can't/shouldn't call 100% cEV here. not saying this is a fold, but you don't want to just pokerstove/pot odds to decide calling ranges in spots like this

12-03-2011 , 04:22 PM

LoveThee

adept

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,012

Is this a final table? shouldn't you be playing tighter at FT?
If this is a FT I don't call.
Calling because he shoved QJ before is being result oriented, another thing would be if we see he is shoving a lot in good positions.

12-03-2011 , 07:25 PM

AcidManner

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 382

is it a reg?

12-05-2011 , 05:57 AM

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

snaaaaaaaaaaap fooold

12-05-2011 , 03:14 PM

broerstolyko

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,038

I must be a nit, but seems very foldable to me against randoms.

12-05-2011 , 03:54 PM

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

your behind all pairs and Ax which sucks because it is soo pretty

12-05-2011 , 04:13 PM

#10

broerstolyko

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,038

Quote:

Originally Posted by liamof

Lol @ this range. Assuming BTN isn't a tard, this is way off.
The range in the OP makes this a clear fold btw.

12-05-2011 , 04:14 PM

#11

broerstolyko

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,038

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwa

I've seen him shove QJo already.

Meaningless without stacksizes and positions of the particular hand.

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