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KQo facing shove - 3.50$ FT KQo facing shove - 3.50$ FT

01-15-2016 , 06:32 PM
Hey guys
Villain is playing 28/26 (1K sample size). His aces also got cracked the previous hand so I have reason to think that this is a tilt shove...
Call or not? Blinds are also very tight.


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37219591

CO: 13,917 (11.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): 13,976 (11.6 bb)
SB: 14,137 (11.8 bb)
BB: 9,124 (7.6 bb)
MP: 16,346 (13.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K Q
MP folds, CO raises to 13,842 and is all-in, Hero?
01-16-2016 , 03:13 PM
bump
01-16-2016 , 03:24 PM
call with those numbers and flow read
01-17-2016 , 04:56 AM
I would probably call if the blinds wouldn't be so short. With BB being short its pretty risky as we are not doing so well in a 3-way pot and his odds to call are monstrous so I'm folding for lack of edge.
01-17-2016 , 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CEZ-R
I would probably call if the blinds wouldn't be so short. With BB being short its pretty risky as we are not doing so well in a 3-way pot and his odds to call are monstrous so I'm folding for lack of edge.
i dont think 7.6bb is so short in the bb that he is going to call 2 all ins here very often. Most likely he will just fold and move up a pay spot. Even if he had 3.8bb i dont take your point if he is getting it in wide there will be a lot of stuff in his range we do great against, and also if we win main pot but lose a side pot ( against someone who so far is left to act!) we still have 8bb and jumped a payout.

I also think we are having to make a decision with less information then op was presented with at the time. The tendencies of the bb in particular will have a baring on the c/o shoving range and will therefore influence the range with which we can call.

Does holdemmanager not allow displaying of all players stats at table like pt4?
01-17-2016 , 07:15 PM
This has to be a fold, because of the ICM. Should be pretty ez to do a calc with ICMizer and check what it says.
01-18-2016 , 07:20 AM
ill run it now on hrc assuming a 180 payout structure. but i think this is probably a call. ICM tax not so severe as everyone apart from bb very evenly stacked.
01-21-2016 , 08:36 AM
Call you'll often find a guy tilt shoving worse hands than yours
01-28-2016 , 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puzo
This has to be a fold, because of the ICM. Should be pretty ez to do a calc with ICMizer and check what it says.
+1. You would probably need something like 60% equity to make the call.

      
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