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KK - A paired turn KK - A paired turn

06-14-2012 , 07:34 PM
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K K

MP1 folds, MP2 calls 150, Hero raises to 600, 2 folds, SB calls 525, BB folds, MP2 calls 450

Flop: (1,950) T Q 5 (3 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets 999, SB folds, MP2 calls 999

Turn: (3,948) Q (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets 5,509 and is all-in, MP2 calls 1,391 and is all-in

River: (6,730) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: 6,730 pot

Spoiler:
Final Board: T Q 5 Q A
MP2 showed K Q and won 6,730 (3,740 net)
Hero showed K K and lost (-2,990 net)


Notes:
  • Should I have bet any differently pre-flop?
  • Should I have shoved on the flop?
  • Is there any way of getting away from this?
06-14-2012 , 07:56 PM
Some info about stacksizes would be nice, now I can't say anything preflop but as played i think you done allright.
06-14-2012 , 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sokz
Some info about stacksizes would be nice, now I can't say anything preflop but as played i think you done allright.
Sorry, the hand converter has broken on me. It hasn't worked in a very long time. Any idea on how to get it working again? I copy and paste my history from PokerStars.

Here they are:


Position NameStack
MP1 7,430 (49.5 bb)
MP2 2,990 (19.9 bb)
MP3 Hero 7,108 (47.4 bb)
CO 1,020 (6.8 bb)
BTN 3,520 (23.5 bb)
SB 1,895 (12.6 bb)
BB 1,320 (8.8 bb)
06-14-2012 , 10:55 PM
nh
06-14-2012 , 11:33 PM
pre is good, flop either bet smaller or shove, betting 1k leaves MP2 with only 1.3k behind, if you bet something like 700 SB still folds and MP2 probably flats, giving you a bigger bet OTT...if youre afraid shove flop its essentially the same as betting pot even though its a small overbet
06-15-2012 , 01:28 AM
all good.
06-15-2012 , 03:55 PM
Well played. His range is a lot wider than Qx so shoving turn's fine. You can bet a bit bigger on the flop multiway.
06-17-2012 , 03:01 PM
I don't understand how this is "good"

which hands that we beat call our shove? And which hands that beat us fold?
06-17-2012 , 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chindo_Nights
which hands that we beat call our shove?
Tx, JJ if hes played it like a ******, he can sometimes call with open enders and gutshots if he's bad and getting short.

Besides, are we just going to give a free card when he potentially has 8 outs?

Quote:
And which hands that beat us fold?
None, we're not bluffing, we're value betting

      
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