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11-21-2016 , 06:18 AM
Do we like shoving here?

I was in the middle of the pack.

I am not sure about this spot because this is an on-demand game so i am not familiar with the ICM/min cashing strategy

PokerStars - 400/800 Ante 75 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 10,234 (VPIP: 18.12, PFR: 11.59, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 151)
BTN: 6,673 (VPIP: 24.04, PFR: 20.05, 3Bet Preflop: 12.65, Hands: 2,041)
SB: 20,494 (VPIP: 20.36, PFR: 17.21, 3Bet Preflop: 8.42, Hands: 504)
BB: 4,554 (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 14.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.12, Hands: 1,379)
Hero (UTG): 7,569
UTG+1: 9,230 (VPIP: 18.47, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.46, Hands: 1,042)
MP: 553 (VPIP: 23.84, PFR: 20.97, 3Bet Preflop: 13.71, Hands: 370)

7 players post ante of 75, SB posts SB 400, BB posts BB 800

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,725) Hero has K J

Hero?
11-21-2016 , 07:37 AM
I think it's a jam - you have a shorter effective stack against three of them than your actual stack.

As a tip, unbold the SB and MP stack when you post the hand as it's a clue to us that you got called by them.
11-22-2016 , 01:20 PM
Do you want to mincash or win? I want to win so this hand is a shove with your stacksize. If you want to cash, fold.
11-22-2016 , 09:35 PM
Open all other 3 tables up. See if anyone shorter busts. Consume your whole timebank.
11-23-2016 , 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rvrrr
Open all other 3 tables up. See if anyone shorter busts. Consume your whole timebank.
Timebanking to make the money is so gaaayyy! One of the most annoying things at the pokertables!!
11-23-2016 , 02:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WingChunWarrior
Timebanking to make the money is so gaaayyy! One of the most annoying things at the pokertables!!
familiar with trolling?

edit: to answer OP question. Yes, we do like it.
11-23-2016 , 05:43 AM
KJo from that position with 9bbs anyway is somewhere around of bottom shoving range.
MP prob goes allin in next hand.no need of heroing with that hand.
you can easily fold or rvrrr suggestion.

its so wrong what WingChunWarrior said.
11-23-2016 , 05:59 AM
Okay, we agree to disagree. I do not like the timebankers. Personally I like to play as many hands as possible because that's the edge I have.
11-29-2016 , 05:28 PM
Kj is such a bad hand there. You play for 9.5 BB and hands that will call you will be mostly 100% favorite on your kj. You will end up playing against >A10 or pairs. This is the kind of spot you will put you at risk for no reason. Even in the money, you will think before shoving with KJo, there is no way you throw your game with this on the edge.
11-29-2016 , 06:22 PM
Am I nit. I would snap fold here.
11-29-2016 , 07:14 PM
Table dynamics/gameflow would help here. Probably marginal and can find a better spot unless the table isn't very active.

Re: timebanking/seeing if anyone else busts... this can definitely be a way to improve your edge if you are paying attention. If you know you are already guaranteed a mincash that will help improve your ROI in the long run.
11-30-2016 , 04:41 AM
Do you ever limp here to induce a call from MP? With the plan to calling a single raise from another player?
12-05-2016 , 01:18 AM
Fold.

      
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