villain was folding too many SB imo.
I was unsure if calling is correct here as in aftermath he might have too many Ax
hands in his range.
But him being so short i can easily see him shuving widely enough to make this a call. He is winning about 10k a month playing these also.
thoughts on the call?

Bigstack was raising a lot and being overly agressiv as well. Villain got blinded down to 68k before but then doubled like few hands before with 66> A2 after he shuved UTG at 6/12k . Since he is letting himself blind down so much does this mean he is way tighter than he should be in these spots?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (8,000/16,000 blinds, 1,600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11155472

BTN: 605,534 (37.8 bb)
SB: 141,044 (8.8 bb)
Hero (BB): 189,922 (11.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K J
BTN folds, SB raises to 139,444 and is all-in, Hero calls 123,444

if he has folded quite a lot, it's pretty important you take this into consideration when you decide your calling range. if he has folded quite a lot of sbs i would definitely fold this because his range is likely to be quite tight, and kjo isn't going great against this average range (and there are icm considerations, not huge because you are short stack along with villain, but it's defintely not cEV since winner doesn't take 100% of prizes etc)

thanks for input OMGclay :-P

In the minute i clicked call i was sure its a mistake haha ( even only a slight one imo ) ... but was too late :-/

Surely not?!

3r is wrong on sharkscope, almost all regs look like they are winning more than they are

He's probably folding too many spots in the SB for sure, but no winning reg in the 3r's is going to be folding 70% in this spot. Also, the 3-handed dynamic isn't great for us; we won't be seeing many walks with an over-active button, and when we do get chances to shove, he may call us off lighter than he should. It wouldn't be good either if we got stuck in a "folding war" with the other short stack, where the CL really takes over, and our remaining dwindling equity is derived from our ability to payjump.

call vs reg obv.
if he makes 10k a month call twice.

ha i missed the fact hes a winning reg first time around (hence my late reply about the 3r regs/sharkscope) looking at it again i would probably call and just assume he has been super card dead if he has folded a significant amount of the time

true but i already took that into account by saying 10k instead of the 13k that it says :-P. And its only 3$R 180s but also 8s and 15s. Sorry didnt make it clear, but I think it doesnt matter really anyways if he makes 5 or 10k a month, only important fact is that he is a good winning reg imo :-P

villain has to be pushing tighter than 30% for this to be a fold....i'm not sure there are many winning regs out there that tight in this spot.

This is ridiculous, a 9xBB SB shove and you want to fold KJo. There is almost no ICM factor. He would have to be pushing a 15% range for the call to be cEV-. You know there is pot odds.

Never said that but thanks for you input

I would call this somewhat delightedly.

of course there icm factor
doubling your stack isn't close to doubling your equity
i'm not saying this is a fold, and i realise we are getting pot odds but this is just wrong

The ICM factor is very small. If you win the hand, you lock 2nd.