Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - 25/50 Blinds - 9 players

SNG-MTT 180 players



Is there anything to discuss here or is this an automatic call? An early open followed by a 3-bet then a 4-bet shove made me hesitate here despite my hand. Are you guys calling all day here? BTW I don't have enough hands with villains for reliable stats.



Hero (BTN): t1363 1 BBs - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 1.4, Hands: 840
SB: t2363 1 BBs - VPIP: 70, PFR: 30, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 10
BB: t1519 1 BBs - VPIP: 4, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 25
UTG: t1438 1 BBs - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 10
UTG+1: t814 1 BBs - VPIP: 30, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 10
UTG+2: t1530 1 BBs - VPIP: 15, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 0.0, Hands: 61
MP1: t1408 1 BBs - VPIP: 16, PFR: 4, 3B: 8, AF: 0.0, Hands: 25
MP2: t1993 1 BBs - VPIP: 40, PFR: 40, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 10
CO: t1072 1 BBs - VPIP: 40, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 10



Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is BTN with K A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t150, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t525, MP2 raises to t1987, 1 fold, Hero calls t1363 all in, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t664 all in, 1 fold

Flop: (t4065) 3 Q 5 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t4065) 9 (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t4065) Q (3 players - 2 are all in)

If we are making a decision without reads or usable stats the buy in is very important. We have to evaluate the strength of our hand in regards to the in game action but also the player pool tendencies.
I would sigh fold at my bi. MP1 3 bet sizing is large looks like he crosses the commitment threashold doesnt look like he folds after this bet sizing a lot and yet he gets cold 4 bet shoved on when action started utg +1. Yes MP1 did fold but he got a cold 4 bet shove cold called. And he only just went over what we think hes commitment threashold may be.
Note I am a fairly tight player when calling.

probs going to get flamed here lol

People do such spazzy things in these games, that I'm pretty much always happy to get in AKs in preflop for 30bb, and chalk it up to a cooler if u run into the nuts.

would you even gii at $15BI? maybe im just a nit lol

Okay thanks for the responses. I called and MP2 had pocket fives and tripled up as someone behind me called with AQo.

if anyone in these games is cold 4 bet shoving 55 when action started utg +1 of a 16bb stack then calling AKs will be a +EV call for sure. btw what was the BI?

The buy in was only $2.50 I think.

yeah and that bi its defo a call. Think tbh I may be to tight folding this at a $15 BI. AQs is an insta fold AKo may even be a call. MP2 should have a really narrow range here in terms of GTO but readless there are still people spewing of light at $15BI especially on the weekend.
Ill run it in HRC and see what it reckons.

Cant get it to run on HRC. Its the most advanced hand ive tried to run and im running a beta (so that i have 180man payout distribution).

I had to change the commitment threshold so it would let MP+1 3bet more then the set 30% commitment threashold but then it wont let hero call showing up the same asterix as when you have a commitment threshold problem but it may mean something else in this situation I'm not sure. Ive never tried to run a hand when a cold 4 bet shove is cold called before.

If anyone has ran hands as complex as this on hrc can they give me a clue as to how to run this hand as i really want to run this. It may just be a problem with my beta however.

Regarding the hand in question ive made a big mistake when I said i would fold at $15. I realised when I started ranging the people i started with what my UTG+1 opening range would be in this spot around 10% or just under but then i realised the first raise comes from someone who has already lost nearly half his stack. So he may not be readless in regards to how his range is seen by table especially if they saw him lose chips in a suspect spot or showdown something loose. Now changing the range of the first raise obviously has a rippling effect throughtout all the ranges from all the people left to act (the 3 bet can be lighter so therefore can the 4bet and we can therefore call this lighter) I still think aq is a fold but AKo may even be a call.