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Facing 4b in Bb with QQ Facing 4b in Bb with QQ

10-06-2016 , 08:07 PM
Just wondering what you guys think of this, villains relatively unknown. I feel at the point villain 4bets I'm probably too strong to fold but too weak to 5b shove?? I feel like I have to flat here but when I do I will often just fold on the flop. I know villains range is very strong based on his play but because he's unknown I feel it wouldn't be great to fold here. any advice much appreciated.

PokerStars - $6.42+$0.58|10/20 Ante 3 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 70.75 BB (VPIP: 28.53, PFR: 21.73, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 390)
MP+1: 73.9 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 18.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 100)
MP+2: 85.1 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
CO: 72.9 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BTN: 72.9 BB (VPIP: 5.56, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
SB: 73.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 74.4 BB
UTG: 74.4 BB (VPIP: 14.67, PFR: 12.99, 3Bet Preflop: 6.64, Hands: 3,932)
UTG+1: 77.25 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 47)

9 players post ante of 0.15 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.85 BB) Hero has Qclub Qheart

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, MP+2 raises to 25 BB, fold, Hero ?

Flop: (152.85 BB, 2 players) 8diamond 6heart 3club

Turn: (152.85 BB, 2 players) 4diamond

River: (152.85 BB, 2 players) 6spade
10-07-2016 , 12:18 PM
more than happy to gii vs unknown here
10-09-2016 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Corpsey
more than happy to gii vs unknown here
Possibly confirmation bias but I think your probably right. is there an argument for flatting here though and seeing what happens on the flop?
10-09-2016 , 09:37 AM
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...flatting here though and seeing what happens on the flop?...
This line of though will more likely cost you money in the long run
10-11-2016 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by xPISCIVOROUSx
This line of though will more likely cost you money in the long run
+1.

You rarely get away against KK+ but AK has a chance to get away if no A or K falls.

It might be different if you were sure AK was going to jam any flop it misses anyway but I don't think you can rely on him playing that way against your 4-bet flatting range.

      
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