I really want your opinion about those kind of spot . What do you think is the best play and why ? Justify your answer please .
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.1 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 80 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1840)
UTG (t4770)
UTG+1 (t4635)
MP1 (t4015)
MP2 (t2215)
CO (t1705)
Hero (Button) (t10655)
SB (t9215)

Hero's M: 8.59

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, J
4 folds, CO bets t1625 (All-In), Hero raises to t10575 (All-In), SB calls t8935 (All-In), 1 fold

Flop: (t20935) 3, J, J (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (t20935) 2 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t20935) 6 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t20935



Added One more hand , the CO over 800 hand is 17/15 seems average good player , the BU only 89 hands 26/23 seems bad aggresive player .

Given Nash ( i know that none is playing perfect ) but given nash if the CO is shoving : 21.7%, 33+ A2s+ A9o+ K7s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QTo+ J9s+ T9s which is reasonable range and BU is iso shoving : 8.7%, 77+ A9s+ ATo+ which again is reasonable , we can call with : 5.6%, 88+ AQs+ AQo+


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.5 Tournament, 1500/3000 Blinds 300 Ante (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t3410)
UTG (t22895)
MP1 (t106692)
MP2 (t19802)
CO (t37678)
Button (t48166)
Hero (SB) (t71977)

Hero's M: 10.91

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A
3 folds, CO bets t37378 (All-In), Button raises to t47866 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls t110 (All-In)

Flop: (t81466) 6, Q, 6 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (t81466) Q (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t81466) Q (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t81466

Shove seems best, you want SB to fold PPs and KQ and Ax etc.

Fold first, SB too deep, WP second

You cant fold first man ..

This may be slightly results orientated but I think flatting is best in hand 1. I don't think SB is gonna rejam light so you can fold quite happily. If he flats he's gonna play passively postflop anyway because there's no sidepot.

I think you have to shove hand 2, if CO is a reg then he's gonna be way wider than nash and BTN can have quite a lot of worse Ax hands.

+1, Although I think that a good SB villain will still have, what they think is a pretty wide value jamming range and fold you out sometimes with worse hands. Getting amazing odds to jam and double his/her stack at low risk. Re-shove back to you will be a tough spot and a fold to preserve 8k chips will seem like the obvious route.

That being said, I still think calling is the best option because a reshove doesn't happen enough to make flatting -EV. As well, just shoving here for me is a little too high risk.

I could definitely see myself being completely wrong here and shoving being the obvious right answer.

Personally, I think SB call was a little crazy...

I also can see a fold pre flop being okay, as crazy as that sounds. Better to wait for a better spot, preserve chips, and be the aggressor in the hand you choose to get all your money in. As opposed to getting forced to go all in with a marginal hand. Seems like everyone else is short, it's just a ****ty situation because SB is such a big stack to your immediate left.

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Fold.

Shove the first hand, fold the second. I'm not going to tell you why. I'm like that smart Asian kid you cheated off of in math class. You can get the answers from me, but I'm not going to teach you this stuff.

ROFL ... Saw you on the tables in the 3.5/45s , going to stay away from you now, smart asian kid like guy.

haha

1st call and fold vs reshove
2nd reshove

it is not necessary to be an asian to know the right answer

this

dont grind the math gamez without knowing the mathssssssssss

Calling 1st hand then folding to sb shove is horrendous. We'd need 35% and we're getting it vs 95% of players.

2nd hand villain had AK, would you posting if you hadn't hit quads? No. Pretty easy fold.

ofc i would post it

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