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05-31-2014 , 10:16 PM

Gladiatoranc

adept

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,112

Is this a place where i should shove? Its an 18 player and two tables left.

PokerStars - $1.29+$0.21|75/150 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 7.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
CO: 12.29 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
Hero (BTN): 11.53 BB
SB: 8.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
BB: 6.13 BB (VPIP: 6.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)
UTG: 7.54 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB

06-01-2014 , 03:50 PM

randomtom

adept

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 940

Depends very much on villain. If he's very passive and likes to limp/fold, then yes its a good spot to resteal. Without reads I just let it go.

06-01-2014 , 04:00 PM

BubbleNedRum

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249

Reshove on every player besides regs.
Left him Fall with his QJo and be happy about it

06-01-2014 , 04:29 PM

Gladiatoranc

adept

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,112

Yeah Im multi-tabling at those low stakes, so really i dont have any other reads but the players stats.

Quote:

Reshove on every player besides regs.
Left him Fall with his QJo and be happy about it

Regs limp here?

06-01-2014 , 05:40 PM

BubbleNedRum

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249

Yes some actuall solid players try to be clever and limp their nutrange

06-01-2014 , 05:55 PM

Gladiatoranc

adept

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,112

Quote:

Yes some actuall solid players try to be clever and limp their nutrange

Stats simple is too small to say if hes a reg...

Reg limping here with nuts or even hands like AJs work against aggressive players who like to shove against limpers. It's not a very good move against other good regs IMO, because it's very very fishy. Think about it, the reg open shove all day long with 10BB, then all the sudden limps ... I don't buy it for a second.

06-01-2014 , 07:01 PM

BubbleNedRum

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249

I did not say that this kind of play is good, i said there are people doing it.
If a 13/11 guy over 400 hands limps the CO with 12bb i fold my AK happily

06-01-2014 , 08:58 PM

oldskool87

adept

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 843

id jam here

06-10-2014 , 01:23 AM

aboulleil

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 689

let it go. unless you seen him limp/fold

06-10-2014 , 06:06 AM

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set4vegas

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,634

lol at folding Ak happily

06-10-2014 , 07:02 AM

#11

pipi486

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 408

Shoving seems alright, his stats looks passive with PFR at only 4%
his range here could be 20 to 25% of his hands in which your A7 is decent against

06-10-2014 , 07:38 AM

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aboulleil

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 689

I am interested to know what range is a 17/4 limp calling us with that A7o is ahead of?

06-10-2014 , 09:48 AM

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Gladiatoranc

adept

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,112

Quote:

I am interested to know what range is a 17/4 limp calling us with that A7o is ahead of?

I guess it changes depending on the player. Some players get a bit scared and might only call, 77+, ATs+, AJ+. But i guess other are stubborn and would call wider. I have a shortstack too, so this may induce more calling.

06-10-2014 , 11:40 PM

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aboulleil

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 689

The sample size is low. that's what we got though so based on that, do you think V is limp calling us with a range like:
22+, ATo+, A2s+, KJo+, KTs+, QTs+

A7o is not doing so good here.

06-11-2014 , 04:04 AM

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BubbleNedRum

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249

because villain is openlimping his complete range?

06-11-2014 , 04:22 AM

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aboulleil

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 689

we don't know much about villain apart that he is running 17/4 over a small sample.

unless I have seen him limp fold before, I am letting this go.

06-11-2014 , 07:02 AM

#17

Bahtijar

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 11

Think i would shove AT+,A2s+,KQs, 22+

06-11-2014 , 09:03 AM

#18

Gladiatoranc

adept

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,112

My reasoning behind shoving was that because he seams tight preflop i might scare him into folding a few hand.

But i think i'm wrong here readless...

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