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9c8c is this a shove FT hand?? 9c8c is this a shove FT hand??

06-13-2012 , 06:08 PM
PokerStars Hand #81914992105: Tourname



    Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13217791

    UTG+1: 28,059 (17.5 bb)
    Hero (): 17,483 (10.9 bb)
    : 5,977 (3.7 bb)
    : 27,789 (17.4 bb)
    : 22,406 (14 bb)
    : 10,770 (6.7 bb)
    BTN: 14,732 (9.2 bb)
    SB: 6,155 (3.8 bb)
    BB: 1,629 (1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is with 8 9
    UTG+1 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 2,950 pot
    Hero mucked 8 9 and lost (-150 net)
    mucked and lost (-150 net)
    mucked and lost (-150 net)
    mucked and lost (-150 net)
    mucked and lost (-150 net)
    BTN mucked and lost (-150 net)
    SB mucked and lost (-950 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-950 net)



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    06-13-2012 , 07:24 PM
    Hmm why the hell would u. :P
    06-13-2012 , 08:50 PM
    11bb blinds coming is it profitable? If not when is it profitable for this shove in this pos 6-8bb 8-10bb???? I'm asking because utg - utg+2 I'm not shoving correctly
    06-14-2012 , 01:25 AM
    Definite fold, Id say 6BB since this is FT
    06-14-2012 , 04:14 AM
    I'm folding this due to icm, too many small stacks gain value if we loose against some big stack call.
    06-14-2012 , 06:09 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MangoBall
    Definite fold, Id say 6BB since this is FT
    Cheers
    06-14-2012 , 07:59 AM
    You won't even win without showdown given BB is all in. Fold.
    06-14-2012 , 08:03 AM
    fold.
    u dont want to show what hand you are shoving 11bbs with.
    06-14-2012 , 09:19 AM
    Jaysus never kopped that. Could any1 assign a range for shoving there even if bb had 8+bigs
    88+AQ+ or should I be shoving wider I'm a bit clueless for utg-utg2
    06-14-2012 , 12:26 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DeJammer
    Jaysus never kopped that. Could any1 assign a range for shoving there even if bb had 8+bigs
    88+AQ+ or should I be shoving wider I'm a bit clueless for utg-utg2
    Yeah, would like to hear this too
    06-14-2012 , 06:40 PM
    why did u edit the HH ? confusing
    06-15-2012 , 04:19 AM
    slightly +cEV at best. def -$EV tho.
    06-15-2012 , 06:22 PM
    At this buy in you should fold as I'm estimating calling ranges will be much more liberal than normal.
    06-15-2012 , 08:56 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Glitlr
    At this buy in you should fold as I'm estimating calling ranges will be much more liberal than normal.
    I think people are a lot more pay-jump conscious at lower levels. From playing the 180s I've found that the $2.50 FTs are by far the nittiest.
    06-17-2012 , 08:40 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DeJammer
    Could any1 assign a range for shoving there even if bb had 8+bigs
    88+AQ+ or should I be shoving wider I'm a bit clueless for utg-utg2
    I think it would be okay to push something like 99+ A7s+ ATo+ KTs+ KJo+ QJs from that position while BB is that short in this exact situation. Not pushing pairs too small.

    If the bb had around 8bb stack and there are no micro-stacks you could push around this range - 66+ A2s+ A9o+ K9s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+
    or 88+ A3s+ A9o+ K9s+ KTo+ QTs+ if there are some micro-stacks (more likely to call you) you need bigger cards against.

    And you can add smaller pairs and all the X9s cards if all the stacks are equal and push 22+ and suited kings (at least K6s) if you cover all the players yet to act with your stack like that.

    98s is slightly bad if you are not the chip leader covering them all in that position. Usually it is not good idea to push more than 20% if you are around 10bb. 98s would be marginal.
    I like T9s+ when no micro-stacks.

    06-17-2012 , 06:06 PM
    Close fold

          
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