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11-28-2016 , 11:53 AM

ThePokerBot

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,793

I am2nd in chips vs. the chip leader,

Average stack is 12k

PokerStars - 500/1000 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 5,837 (VPIP: 15.50, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 343)
UTG: 5,376 (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
MP: 6,664 (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 12.00, Hands: 182)
CO: 35,093 (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
Hero (BTN): 20,162
SB: 9,242 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 21)

6 players post ante of 100, SB posts SB 500, BB posts BB 1,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,100) Hero has 8

fold, fold, CO raises to 4,000, [color=red]Hero ???

11-29-2016 , 04:15 AM

buttonko

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 29

Imo this is a push/fold spot for us, especially with this holding. Against unknown I would probably 3betshove, just because CO should be opening there a lot 40-60%.

11-29-2016 , 02:47 PM

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,838

Against donks I tend to read a 4x open inappropriate for the stacks as strong - at least in his mind. He's never folding. I would just fold myself and move on the next hand.

You are in a sweet spot as the effective table boss every time the player on your right folds - no need to flip and especially not against him - even with some best case scenario hand like he has KJo.

11-29-2016 , 04:17 PM

URagnatha

adept

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,158

Quote:

Originally Posted by LektorAJ

+1 and if the stack sizes are similar on other table our BF vs him is very large. I think this is a fold after his 4x 1000% of the time

11-29-2016 , 05:22 PM

GylbertFD1

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 40

The 4x raise doesnt make sense at all. But most likely, you will lose the pot if you flat call the raise there because he will 95% bet the flop and you have 75% chances missing the flop with no ace or 8. For many reasons, A8, I won't get involve in any action especially because I have more to lose than to win into this specific spot.

GL

11-29-2016 , 07:21 PM

Corpsey

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 438

Is this a PKO?

Without any sorts of reads/info this is probably a fold and find a better spot (especially if it's a PKO and we cover everyone else on the table).

11-30-2016 , 07:31 AM

wanderer_pro

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 290

vs min raise its a obv shove spot (especially in psko, where villain will be r/c the blinds very wide for a bounty). vs 4x or 3x I always fold. His a rec and you don't have fEQ imo.

12-01-2016 , 03:18 PM

buttonko

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttonko

Imo this is a push/fold spot for us, especially with this holding. Against unknown I would probably 3betshove, just because CO should be opening there a lot 40-60%.

I overlooked that he opened to 4x, my bad. That makes it an easy fold, unless its his standard or...

12-05-2016 , 01:22 AM

RobertM

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderer_pro

vs min raise its a obv shove spot (especially in psko, where villain will be r/c the blinds very wide for a bounty). vs 4x or 3x I always fold. His a rec and you don't have fEQ imo.

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