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 180 man turbo - limping 77 and meets AI  180 man turbo - limping 77 and meets AI

03-18-2012 , 09:57 AM
I have no reads on villain, but I would say he is a reg since he has the GoldStar VIP status.

As I se it, calling the AI is a no brainer due to all the dead money. But my thougths after the hand where, that it is probably not so profitable for me to limp this hand, when my stack is so short. I'm thinking that we are better of jamming pre, and apply some preasure. When we are limping small and medium PPs we are just set-mining, as I se it, and that would probably require a bigger stack to be profitable - but how big??

All thoughts are appreaciated...

Poker Stars $7.34+$0.66 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 1690808
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UTG: t1285 8.57 BBs
UTG+1: t1465 9.77 BBs
Hero (UTG+2): t1560 10.40 BBs
MP1: t2275 15.17 BBs
MP2: t2895 19.30 BBs
CO: t455 3.03 BBs
BTN: t900 6 BBs
SB: t6545 43.63 BBs
BB: t2540 16.93 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG+2 with 7 7
2 folds, Hero calls t150, 3 folds, BTN raises to t900 all in, 2 folds, Hero calls t750

Flop: (t2025) 9 J Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t2025) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2025) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)
03-18-2012 , 10:24 AM
You can r/c as well here, but you will get flatted to often and sevens don't play that well postflop, so I think shoving is the best option here. You should never limp in this situation.
03-18-2012 , 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mackica
You should never limp in this situation.
But what if we where 75bb+ deep? If not then, is it because we are in EP that we don't want to do so?
03-18-2012 , 12:12 PM
It is because at 10 BBs deep we don't have near enough the correct odds to setmine. It's ok to limp with 10/20 blinds imo.
03-18-2012 , 05:14 PM
pretty standard jam.

with regards set mining some will say 20-25bb others even more as no fkr ever pays them off when they hit anyway lol

For me it's around that kinda stack size, depending on others stack sizes and table dynamics but tbh other than the 1st cpl of levels of 180s effective stacks are rarely deep enough for mining.
03-19-2012 , 07:49 PM
shove 55+ here imo or raise call prefer shoving myself
03-19-2012 , 09:52 PM
set mining is fun not good here though with less than 11bbs though
03-20-2012 , 02:51 AM
Standard shove
03-20-2012 , 08:33 AM
I would say in general set mining at turbos is bad (maybe not for 10/20, 15/30). once you raise mid, low pp you have to know what stacks you gonna call and what you are not. with 10-13bb I would shove about all pp. With 20bb+ stack you can r/c lets say 7-8bb stacks and r/f to bigger stacks. (not really sure but as the idea in general)
03-20-2012 , 08:45 AM
jam pre and be happy you have 77 and not 78s/22
03-20-2012 , 01:55 PM
all you can eat
03-20-2012 , 04:15 PM
never openlimp
as played calling
standard ship pre
03-26-2012 , 01:41 AM
shove super standar has 10 blind can not invent
03-26-2012 , 04:30 AM
shove and smile
03-26-2012 , 09:07 AM
jam that ****
03-26-2012 , 01:36 PM
+1 to what furo said

Don't like r/c since we could end up multiway and have to fold on a lot of flops. We don't really induce anything to shove that we beat either.
03-26-2012 , 09:12 PM
shove

      
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