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77 v 3bet by reg 2.5 180man FT 77 v 3bet by reg 2.5 180man FT

07-06-2013 , 06:39 AM
Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players
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MP2: t40337 M = 11.20
CO: t40949 M = 11.37
BTN: t14186 M = 3.94
SB: t22045 M = 6.12
BB: t22140 M = 6.15
UTG: t19896 M = 5.53
Hero (UTG+1): t46343 M = 12.87
MP1: t64104 M = 17.81

Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is UTG+1 with 7 7
1 fold, Hero raises to t3200, 2 folds, CO raises to t8000, 3 folds, Hero raises to t46193 all in, CO calls t32799 all in

Flop: (t85198) A T Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t85198) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t85198) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t85198
CO shows Kh Kd (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Hero shows 7h 7s (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
CO wins t85198


Stats of villain: 15/13 3bet 10.6% steal 26% fold to steal 85% resteal 18% in 1.1k hands

Is the push to villain's 3bet is fine ? What push range should be against such villain?
07-06-2013 , 08:25 AM
I think its a fold. We cant take in account resteal stat, as this is not a resteal. I noticed that pfr stats usually corelates with light 3betting, the higher the pfr is the lighter player likes to 3bet. And i rarely see regs with 15pfr and more than 7-8 3bet. It is important to check his fold to 4bet stat, if its big, maybe he has an ability to 3bet/fold light, otherwise maybe data you have on him is not accurate yet.

There isnt much value in such moves in 2.50, because the ft is usually with more donks than regs, so there is no need to make questionable moves vs regs, as he can easily abuse weaker players with his stack. And one more thing, even if he is 3betting you with 10%, he already have odds to call you.

Hand 0: 58.784% 56.26% 02.52% 7310167588 327574006.00 { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 41.216% 38.70% 02.52% 5027647152 327574006.00 { 66+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AJo+, KQo }

And my 4betshoving range would be pretty tight here. I guess something like JJ+,AK. Id probably flat AA KK here. It can be wider if u had history before, or saw actual showdowns, where he showed stuff like Kxs,qxs,jxs, the hands that have blockers , playable if u get flated, but too weak to call shove.
07-06-2013 , 09:20 AM
Classic spot where one levels themself. 2.5 'regs' dont have that wide of a 3b/f range in this spot to make a 4bjam profitable, even though the spot seems perfect for it.
07-06-2013 , 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sokz
Classic spot where one levels themself. 2.5 'regs' dont have that wide of a 3b/f range in this spot to make a 4bjam profitable, even though the spot seems perfect for it.
This. Just fold 2.5 regs are never 3betting wide enough here to stack off with 77. Pretty sure its an ICM disaster as well.
07-06-2013 , 04:15 PM
Fold
07-07-2013 , 10:39 AM
Definite fold, i honestly don't think a reg is getting out of line in this spot, especially against an UTG raise. Just fold and wait for a better spot, unlikely that he 3-bet/folds.
07-09-2013 , 01:41 AM
This isn't even close. Insta fold. Putting in almost 30bbs at these stakes with 77 after raising utg and getting 3 bet is lighting money on fire. Minimum 99 AQo+ for the raiser, and that's being pretty generous unless you have a pretty good idea of how this player plays 25bbs deep.
07-09-2013 , 04:47 AM
agree with all what was said i want to add that we don't wanna to put ourselves into coinflip, having a big stack and a lot of smallstacks in ft, and with 77 the best on what we can count is coin, and it's a small part of his range, he won't do this 3bet with hand like 44-66, and very often we will see TT-AA, with M=13 it's just too deep

      
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