i have 3 regs sitting there with reshove stacks, so im opening to induce a shove. BB is random 24/18 guy on small sample (20 hands)

Interested in this hand as ive not been dealing with donks very well recently. what do we think a random reggy stat player is donking here?

Whats our image at table? If we think hes a reg with a hud whats our own c bet perc likely to be to him?

I would probably just shove here because we are shallow and a call commits us but really we are folding out weaker and only getting called largely by hands we have 2 outs against.

I suppose we could call and call whatever the turn is shoving if he checks turn and turn wasnt a King or Ace?

Anybody folding here? I myself only really donk sometimes if i have a strong hand that is a small part of my range and flop likely to connect with opener in a one pair way that I have crushed. or when i stop and go.

And in the past have done it very occasionally with air vs observant regs that have observed me in the past donking say flopped 2 pair.

Basically if its me in the villains seat you should just fold lol.

shove pre, you put yourself in a wierd spot by opening because of stacks

thats for another debate, my open here is lot more +ev than shove ( like 3 or 4 bbs more ) because of my style, and because i like exploating regs more than a simple gto approach especially when i have crazy opener image :V

so, i aint searching for preflop advices here

ok, no problem
i discussed your preflop play simply because i think that all your option on that flop kind of sucks.
To be honest i'm not sure at all on what you're supposed to do otf, i'm very curious to see more opinions.
If you're not considering shoving pre it's a more interesting hand (at least from me).
Just out of curiosity what range are you opening in this spot with that stack from UTG+2 (looks like utg from hh) and what are you raise folding (if there are hands that you raise fold)?

no bad blood bro,all good

position is UTG for sure,converter fked something up obv

with 2 of 3 regs on this table i have certain dynamic bcs we play long time,so they know that i tend to open light in many spots and obv they 3bet me somewhat lighter than usual ( not so when i open utg 12bb but still yes )

i'm not opening actually so many hands in this spot, especially not on 45s because i just started playing this format. Im not especially balanced here and dont have some default range,but i would always raise call here TT+ AQs+, shove 55-99,A9s+,AJo KJs, KQs , QJs mb, and raise fold any other hand that i would open. so it is exploatible as i will open/fold like 60-65% and open/call 35-40% of hands that i open,but ppl tend to be pretty honest vs UTG open, especially when u have stack like this when it looks like highly inducing open.

balancing is overrated here bcs i get chips by nonsd much more, and i dont care about few regs that will exploit that by 3betting me little bit lighter.
me and couple friends did bunch of heavy calculations in hrc few months ago and discovered that it is profitable to open like 35% utg ( u all know few hungarian guys that have those 30+ utg opens ) if u are able to play perfect postflop etc etc,but in vacuum it's +ev.

we could move this arguement to some other topic or something, bcs i really want to hear your opinions on this donk bet when we're this short

Q75r? nty.

How often is this 88/99 instead of Qx?

I almost snap Axxr, Axx two-tone I think about.

Guy seems cally and pretty aggro so i just rip it he will call with lower pairs and draws but, anyway you put it its a crappy spot

Nofear47,

Lemme refine a bluff range. Villain is donking {44, 66, 88}, in a bit of a rush, wants to turn an OESD and is gonna double barrel.

Can also c/c, donk shove turn.

Tough opp.