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08-20-2011 , 07:27 AM

sayakmitra

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Poker Stars, $6.42 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10313742

SB: 4,255 (7.1 bb)
BB: 3,395 (5.7 bb)
MP: 7,513 (12.5 bb)
CO: 12,437 (20.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): 3,484 (5.8 bb)

Preflop: (250) Hero is BTN with A

MP folds, CO calls 600
Hero??

INFO: 10 player left. CO is 43/18 over 32 hands. I saw him limping with A5,A8,AT and KJ. I saw him raising with AJo,99,kk.

I am very much up for shoving here.(As I put him in range of 77-22,A9s-A2s,K6s+,Q7s+,J9s+,ATo-A2o,K7o+,Q8o+,JTo and I have ~55% equity over his range).
But I need opinion and different aspects if there any. Please comment.
thanks.

08-20-2011 , 09:38 AM

Syker12

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This is where the better players earn there money by abusing the limpers in late game stage's + get them to call of with hands they limp with, eg 10j, JQ etc, obv were not thrilled with only having around 55% but were shoving with plenty of FE, so this is very standard.

08-20-2011 , 01:29 PM

ndahlhoff10

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I like shoving especially with how you've seem him play and we still get some folds.

08-20-2011 , 01:47 PM

Viktor Hovland

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,355

definitelya marginal spot but with how youve seen him play your getting FE to shove. he probably doesnt want to call off almost half his stack with 99% of his limp range (unless he limped with JJ+) but since theres no specific reason to believe this player would do that you should definitely shove. with 5bb and still 3 from the money this is probably gonna be one of your best chances to chip up

08-20-2011 , 03:39 PM

mckrogh

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ship ship shiiiiiiiiiip shipameeeeeeeeeeeeeents!

08-21-2011 , 11:31 AM

Gazillion

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I doubt we are getting many folds here tbh, maybe 30% of the time?

When I first saw the hand my initial reaction was to shove, but under these conditions I might nit it up a little. Meh, I probably shove this about 60% of the time but a lot of it is dependent on what our reads are on the blinds, especially BB who has about 20% of his stack committed preflop.

08-21-2011 , 01:16 PM

Camzace

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,351

Gotta jam here, even if we get folds 30% of the time and we get it in with like 50% equity this spot is so insanely profitable it makes it rain money

08-23-2011 , 11:01 AM

PAROOVKA

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 405

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syker12

but were shoving with plenty of FE

I don't see any here, he'll call it 100%. We have much more equity by shoving any two against other short stacks in the next hands and putting pressure on them than by taking flip now.

08-23-2011 , 11:54 AM

Gazillion

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PAROOVKA

I don't see any here, he'll call it 100%. We have much more equity by shoving any two against other short stacks in the next hands and putting pressure on them than by taking flip now.

I sort of agree with this. I think our main headache is BB, as if he is the kind of player that will get it in reasonably wide as a short stack with a decent overlay, then we find ourselves in a 3 way pot very often, and A7o is just going to play so badly under those conditions. I kinda prefer waiting for initiative and shoving super wide rather than putting ourselves potentially in a spot where we're in a multiway pot with less than great equity.

Meh, I can go either way on this. It's pretty close IMO.

08-23-2011 , 12:52 PM

#10

kidcharisma1

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Ship it.

08-23-2011 , 09:43 PM

#11

Glitlr

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazillion

you need chips. villain is limping with a 20x stack which can represent many hands given the depth. you need chips. did i mention you need chips? can't wait to see you later this week for our session woot!!!

08-25-2011 , 10:45 PM

#12

SandmanNess

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,706

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitlr

Agreed, chips are needed and you could very well be ahead here. I'm definitely getting this in and then looking away and listening for the Pstars "I'm out" beep

08-26-2011 , 12:30 AM

#13

The Number None

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAROOVKA

I don't see any here, he'll call it 100%. We have much more equity by shoving any two against other short stacks in the next hands and putting pressure on them than by taking flip now.

I would agree with this 100% if we had any sort of chip cushion to wait for that situation. So ship it, this is as good a spot as any to double up.

08-26-2011 , 02:04 AM

#14

Beeblebreed

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 349

I def. ship this too. Villain has a large stack and might limp really wide. See him do this with 97s-kind of hands too.

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