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, 18 man - Folding ATo rather than raising , 18 man - Folding ATo rather than raising

12-13-2016 , 12:52 AM
BB is 400 and I'm second place in chips with six remaining. I guess this was me preserving my stack. I didn't want to 2.2x it and then get 3bet. I probably didn't like how BTN has a 9% 3bet and BB has a 15% 3bet.

What's the best play here guys? Fold, 2.2x raise, all in raise?



PokerStars - 200/400 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 9.42 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
BB: 11.65 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 17.00, 3Bet Preflop: 13.16, Hands: 105)
UTG: 9.11 BB (VPIP: 12.59, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.82, Hands: 135)
Hero (MP): 12.24 BB
CO: 16.11 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 8.98 BB (VPIP: 24.67, PFR: 22.83, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 303)

6 players post ante of 0.06 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.88 BB) Hero has T A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, fold

SB wins 2.38 BB
12-14-2016 , 04:38 AM
The stakes I play are much lower than this, so my opponents probably play very different than the ones here. Also, I have yet to invest in apps that help calculate equity and icm, etc.

My initial response when seeing this situation would be to shove, but I see the dilemma here. If the table has been playing super tight and you aren't willing to go all-in preflop, I think a 2.2x open is okay because you can get away from it and still have 10bb remaining. I think a 2.2x raise also looks very strong here because you are inviting people to play a pot with you, so they would need strong holdings to be willing to play.
12-15-2016 , 04:42 AM
Jam is fine, and by far the best option.
12-16-2016 , 04:19 AM
Jam would be standard.

The min-raise/fold would be good if you thought you could rely on them to jam only hands that dominate you and flat with lots that you dominate. But for example I would jam suited wheel aces and things like that over a min-raise from your position here, so it wouldn't be good against me.
12-19-2016 , 05:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stacker604
BB is 400 and I'm second place in chips with six remaining. I guess this was me preserving my stack. I didn't want to 2.2x it and then get 3bet. I probably didn't like how BTN has a 9% 3bet and BB has a 15% 3bet.
you can also preserve your stack by shoving in +ev spots and gaining chips. Not by folding and paying blinds and antes.

If you think they 3bet too much, then why not raise/call?

In this spot tho, as it is FT and there is some ICM, shove is a standard and I think the only play here.

      
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