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07-01-2013 , 10:56 AM

mistwalker54

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 9

Poker Stars, $6.42 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18149631

CO: 1,168 (1.2 bb)
BTN: 7,229 (7.2 bb)
SB: 19,297 (19.3 bb)
BB: 12,174 (12.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): 6,813 (6.8 bb)
MP: 20,819 (20.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8

Hero raises to 6,753 and is all-in, MP raises to 20,759 and is all-in, 4 folds

Flop: (15,366) 4

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (15,366) A

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (15,366) A

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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How do u choose what range to shove or fold on such spots assuming most players on the table shove wide, call tight?

Is this hand a shove or a fold?

Thanks in advance

07-01-2013 , 01:30 PM

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

fold

07-01-2013 , 01:43 PM

sportymat

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 333

Fold. Buy sng wiz or use free online tools to understand icm decisions particularly if you plan to play mainly 45 mans which require a descent knowledge of icm.

07-01-2013 , 04:00 PM

tehgrizzly

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 209

FOLD, coz of CO beeing that short.

07-01-2013 , 05:25 PM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 33,093

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehgrizzly

FOLD, coz of CO beeing that short.

This, though shoving isn't horrible with the pay jumps.

07-02-2013 , 12:25 PM

dmaroo

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 75

what if CO wasn't that short? Let's say 4bb?

07-02-2013 , 04:56 PM

w4ts

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 147

shoving looks fine to me!

07-02-2013 , 05:14 PM

LoveFish2013

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 346

Why is folding here good? We do have a decent hand with 6.7bb. If you fold here, you do have less fold equity in the next few hands..

07-02-2013 , 05:40 PM

stayhighlowe

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 583

its a fold bc of the guy with 1 bb and the general extreme shallowness of stacks late in these turbo 45s.

07-02-2013 , 05:42 PM

#10

stayhighlowe

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 583

however as mentioned all the money is up top so its not terribad to shove this and be going for the win

07-02-2013 , 05:49 PM

#11

LoveFish2013

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 346

Quote:

Originally Posted by stayhighlowe

its a fold bc of the guy with 1 bb and the general extreme shallowness of stacks late in these turbo 45s.

The payjump is so small, so it doesn't really matter I think.

07-02-2013 , 05:54 PM

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Drachaon

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 638

It does matter. Payjumps in 45s are all small. That's how they work.

07-02-2013 , 05:54 PM

#13

Drachaon

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 638

Or rather, all large.

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