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03-07-2013 , 10:06 AM

bigstacky18

stranger

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 11

shove pure chip ev, or keep ICM in mind and shove tighter?

Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16397471

MP1: 3,440 (5.7 bb)
Hero (MP2): 3,905 (6.5 bb)
MP3: 2,206 (3.7 bb)
CO: 4,272 (7.1 bb)
BTN: 2,218 (3.7 bb)
SB: 3,161 (5.3 bb)
BB: 5,947 (9.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4

MP1 folds, Hero raises to 3,855 and is all-in, 2 folds, BTN calls 2,168 and is all-in, 2 folds

Flop: (5,586) 7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (5,586) 9

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (5,586) T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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03-07-2013 , 10:15 AM

FPR Underground

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4

Sorry if this is a bad question, but what would make you shove here with 5 players behind you?

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03-07-2013 , 10:17 AM

t0okie

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,248

This is always an easy fold. I dont think I would even shove this in a sb vs bb situation.

03-07-2013 , 10:25 AM

FPR Underground

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4

Just wondering: assuming we have no reads on the ones behind us in this situation.. With what range should we shove here? 77+, AKo-AJo, AKs-ATs, KQs?

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03-07-2013 , 10:38 AM

t0okie

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,248

I would probably be shoving: 22+,A2s+,K5s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+,JT o, maybe a bit wider.

03-07-2013 , 10:52 AM

FPR Underground

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4

That looks like quite a wide range to me. Would it be safe to assume that altough most behind me have a shorter stack their calling range would still be much tighter than our shoving range? Ax, 66+, K9s+, KTo+. Wouldn't that put us behind with such a wide shoving range at that position?

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03-07-2013 , 06:24 PM

Robinho2611

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329

Quote:

Originally Posted by t0okie

I would probably be shoving: 22+,A2s+,K5s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+,JT o, maybe a bit wider.

This.

No need to even think about shoving 64o here.

03-10-2013 , 01:44 AM

shredderkime

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 191

you think like a fish if you are not one...it;s a fold

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