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[3r/180] AQs on the ft bubble vs LuckandGuts :)

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10-13-2011 , 02:21 PM

Donk's_Money_101

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 440

Hey all,

Here is a hand that troubled me... I wasn't totally sure about calling or not due to the big stacks we had both.

What do you guys think ?

Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10810932

Hero (SB): 87,795 (14.6 bb)
marciocid (BB): 54,565 (9.1 bb)
LeedsLad (MP): 28,520 (4.8 bb)
Azaboom (CO): 105,940 (17.7 bb)
LuckandGuts (BTN): 94,748 (15.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

2 folds, LuckandGuts raises to 94,148 and is all-in, Hero calls 84,195 and is all-in, marciocid folds

Flop: (183,390) 2

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (183,390) 8

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (183,390) K

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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10-13-2011 , 02:33 PM

cneuy3

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Fist pump snap call.

You are crushing his button steal range with AQ. Most regs also don't balance in QQ+ into their overshove ranges so you can probably take those hands out of his range making this a really easy call.

I'm calling 88+ AJ+, for sure in this spot against almost all aggressive reg overshoves.

10-13-2011 , 03:41 PM

microdot

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 146

nh, something tells me if that K was a Q this hand wouldn't trouble you.

10-13-2011 , 04:53 PM

OMGClayDol

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Nh calling wider than cneuy3 for sure vs most people, it's not really that big of a shove either especially given positions

10-13-2011 , 05:08 PM

fernythrills

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Ax will do.

10-13-2011 , 05:08 PM

VinnyCout

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snap NH. think only in 1st place.

10-13-2011 , 05:12 PM

OMGClayDol

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No, don't only think in 1st place lol

10-13-2011 , 06:16 PM

martin_malin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fernythrills

Ax will do.

like ferny snaps with A2o here

10-13-2011 , 10:03 PM

Donk's_Money_101

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 440

ok thx guys

Yeah indeed maybe if the K was a Q that surely wouldn't had troubled me

But I'm pretty new to 3r/180 and still struggling with the deep stacks.
Anyway, I¡m sure I will snap call everytime in that spot...But just wanted to have some feedback

tytyty

10-13-2011 , 11:06 PM

#10

penfold

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cneuy3

Sounds about right, I might stretch to 77/ATs vs this tool.

10-13-2011 , 11:13 PM

#11

ftn_chris

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VinnyCout

snap NH.

yes

Quote:

think only in 1st place.

Last edited by ftn_chris; 10-13-2011 at 11:14 PM. Reason: too many people say only 1st matters. replace 1st with $EV and you're right.

10-13-2011 , 11:25 PM

#12

itscml

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Getting 2nd is nice too f the other places

10-14-2011 , 07:11 AM

#13

furo

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

is he even looking at his cards in this spot? no idea
should he even look at his cards if OP folds AQo? no

dont isolate spots vs regs since you loose alot of $,
making slightly -$EV calls (i dont think this is one... ATo/A8s is prob close) is almost mandotory for metagame. if he has to tighten his range when you are next to him you will automatically be able to get into more +EV spots.

Last edited by furo; 10-14-2011 at 07:13 AM. Reason: missread.. thought it would be the FT. snap it off with Axs/A7o/KJs/KQo/55+

10-14-2011 , 08:50 AM

#14

Donk's_Money_101

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 440

thx furo for that explanation. really makes sense !

10-14-2011 , 09:10 AM

#15

TeamTrousers

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microdot

nh, something tells me if that K was a Q this hand wouldn't trouble you.

Pretty much this. This is AQ for <15bb against a reg shoving from BTN. Don't post BBV as a crappy strat thread.

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