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Originally Posted by ForexTrader
why is it awful ? tbh, i don't agree.
let's assume he knows you are a reg and the only possibilities are 3betting(not shoving) and shoving.
if he 3bets you, you will fold all the range that he beats with QQ, but if he 3bet shoves it looks like AK, AQo/s. He has fold equity vs you and if you call he has some equity. And he achieve exactly what he wanted: a call from a smaller pp, because you(180 reg) know that he doesn't play his 3bet valuerange like that.
maybe my thinking is off, open for discussion
Agree with this. Can't find any flaw in this. Why not to push QQ if we know we can get called.
But can we get called.. Can't use it much. Vs. certain players obv and with certain history with them. If we go all in and raise a lot this can work, hardly if we have been tight. On the other hand, 3betting would work too if we've been aggressive and tight, so all in would be for balancing only. But the opponent with 99 would have to be actually kinda bad for this because why would he flip. Flipping is bad in this stage of the tournament. So I think it works vs. some bingo players (might be regs) or else we'd lose value.
The player with 99 would lose 112.5 chips on average if he would opt not to flip and fold, he'd gain 150 he steals the blinds next blind level. So not worth it. At least for me I think.
PS:
Furo said it is okay to call with 99, so if he'd play versus himself I couldn't understand why he wouldn't push QQ on the BB there.