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.50 + R 180 SNG face 4bet shove Tight regular vs AQs .50 + R 180 SNG face 4bet shove Tight regular vs AQs

05-02-2014 , 08:03 AM
He is tight regular and 8/5/0 in 39 hands

Can we just flat? or take different line other than 3bet? (like over shove)

Once he 4bet, we can def fold but I dont know its profitable play or not

imo its not possible to fold pre but..




PokerStars Hand #115597283993: Tournament #904115710, $3.19+$0.31 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2014/05/02 6:22:04 ET
Table '904115710 11' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Jagdtiger84 (17387 in chips)
Seat 2: 14buzzard14 (4005 in chips)
Seat 3: Ferblink.Rc (22933 in chips)
Seat 4:Hero (40374 in chips)
Seat 5: obelix34145 (30560 in chips)
Seat 6: made_by_god (36808 in chips)
Seat 7: potiss... (30108 in chips)
Seat 8: JOshuaBings (8373 in chips)
Jagdtiger84: posts the ante 150
14buzzard14: posts the ante 150
Ferblink.Rc: posts the ante 150
Hero: posts the ante 150
obelix34145: posts the ante 150
made_by_god: posts the ante 150
potiss...: posts the ante 150
JOshuaBings: posts the ante 150
made_by_god: posts small blind 800
potiss...: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah Qh]
JOshuaBings: folds
Jagdtiger84: folds
14buzzard14: folds
Ferblink.Rc: raises 1600 to 3200
Hero: raises 3600 to 6800
obelix34145: folds
made_by_god: folds
potiss...: folds
Ferblink.Rc: raises 15983 to 22783 and is all-in

???
05-02-2014 , 08:21 AM
please format your hand, it's impossible to read like this

why would you ever 3bet a nit when you have position on him?
do you think he's ever calling or 4betting with worse? no? then there's no reason to 3bet unless you want to turn your hand into a bluff and I don't think we do

just flat it and use your positional advantage

honestly though, I'm not even sure if flatting does us any good against someone playing 8/5
he might as well be trapping or not playing any hands worse than ours from that position
05-02-2014 , 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeodan
please format your hand, it's impossible to read like this

why would you ever 3bet a nit when you have position on him?
do you think he's ever calling or 4betting with worse? no? then there's no reason to 3bet unless you want to turn your hand into a bluff and I don't think we do

just flat it and use your positional advantage

honestly though, I'm not even sure if flatting does us any good against someone playing 8/5
he might as well be trapping or not playing any hands worse than ours from that position
How do I re-write the post that I wrote? Im pretty new to use this forum though I signed up long time ago.

Thanks your reply and I kinda agree with you, but dont know if there are any chances that he raises with worst hands like KQ, KJ, A10, AJ.. and if he raises with 55+ than I have enough equity to call
05-02-2014 , 11:28 AM
Poker Stars $3.19+$0.31 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players - View hand 2485533
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG+1: t17387 M = 4.83
MP1: t4005 M = 1.11
MP2: t22933 M = 6.37
Hero (CO): t40374 M = 11.21
BTN: t30560 M = 8.49
SB: t36808 M = 10.22
BB: t30108 M = 8.36
UTG: t8373 M = 2.33

Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is CO with A Q
3 folds, MP2 raises to t3200, Hero raises to t6800, 3 folds, MP2 raises to t22783 all in

ship it pre. 39 hands don't give us any information and even against a tight reg it should be profitable.
3b/f is horrible, you might 3b because we are pushing 23BB eff, but then you def can't walk away from the hand if the initial raiser shoves.
05-02-2014 , 02:47 PM
flat pre and it's not even close.
as mentioned, 3b/f is not good at all
05-02-2014 , 09:05 PM
I think if you flat its ok. if you 3bet dont fold.
05-02-2014 , 09:18 PM
Effective bb is 2400. V has >10bb if for some reason you think he only has ak and qq+ you should fold. Never think this and shove 100% of the time.
05-02-2014 , 09:25 PM
you can't 3-bet here unless you are willing to gii
05-02-2014 , 09:41 PM
lol
05-03-2014 , 02:42 AM
Just flat, 3b/fold is bad against such a nit.
05-03-2014 , 06:08 AM
thank you guys for all replys and I actually called his shove.. and see two black AA
I concluded that it's better to shove if I'm willing to gamble a bit or fold pre for secure the final table
now I realized that 3-bet choice was horrible!!
thx guys!
05-03-2014 , 08:44 AM
lol, villain in this hand is prob one of the least nitty 180 regs
05-05-2014 , 12:35 PM
dont be result oriented
05-05-2014 , 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwangssi
He is tight regular and 8/5/0 in 39 hands
Too small sample, you cant see anything from 39 hands.

This guy it's not even close to tight.
05-06-2014 , 07:34 AM
quz he's nit, flat is gr8 pre IMO
as played, snap ... (no reason 3b\f a monster (ye ye he's nit what ever))
05-08-2014 , 03:42 PM
this is bad. 3bet shove all day. dont fold....

      
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