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06-10-2012 , 06:08 PM

yowza

stranger

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 9

I found this a trick spot 4 handed dealer has been bullying table for a while with stats 34/27 over 46 hands.

Should I 4bet shove, ICM considered?

Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (5,000/10,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13171031

BB: 152,396 (15.2 bb)
Hero (CO): 223,408 (22.3 bb)
BTN: 367,827 (36.8 bb)
SB: 161,869 (16.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

Hero raises to 22,000, BTN raises to 49,000, 2 folds

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06-10-2012 , 06:17 PM

jokazltu

newbie

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 43

Ship it

06-11-2012 , 06:11 AM

Chindo_Nights

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 994

read dependent, but seems like a solid spot to jam

06-11-2012 , 09:28 AM

streetwalkincheeta

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,132

Has he been shoving over raises with these stacks or has he been 3betting with smaller sizing or has he not 3bet at all yet? If he hasn't done this before, it seems close. If he has, 4bet shove seems best.

06-11-2012 , 10:48 AM

yowza

stranger

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 9

He had mostly been shoving. I had not seen a 3-bet that wasn't a shove from him.

How much fold equity do I have against him if I give him pots odds of 174k to call a 291k pot?

06-11-2012 , 11:59 AM

nyaf

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 266

Quote:

Originally Posted by yowza

He had mostly been shoving. I had not seen a 3-bet that wasn't a shove from him.

Everything is in that sentence in my opinion. He was mostly agressive with crap and now he wants you to jam with a good hand. A normal play for a bad agressive player.

You can't even call as he would 75% of the time jamming on any flop and I don't think you are ready for that.

06-12-2012 , 04:56 AM

MangoBall

adept

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 809

Stats and how active he has been recently is a huge contributor to the descision.

06-12-2012 , 05:59 AM

Chindo_Nights

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 994

isn't it maybe just a case that he now has a stack to 3bet instead of just shove, AND he's on the BU? Did he pick up a double on his last hand?

06-12-2012 , 09:21 AM

DaRook1e

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 124

If you are suspicious that he does hold a monster since he usually 3-bet shoves, why dont you just flat the 3 bet? You got sth like 2.5 pot odds, and you will hit in 33% of the time (maybe less because his range will often include an Ace as a blocker). I think I would 4-bet allin instead of flat calling/folding given the the table dynamics, as well as position and stck considerations.

06-12-2012 , 02:42 PM

#10

kan0

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 913

This entirely depends on villain. Have you been raising a lot? Has he been 3betting lots? etc

If you have been raising a lot, and he has been 3 betting a lot then you should never be folding this. If you have been tight and so is villain then I can find a fold.

Any reads on villain?

I am 4bet shoving this 90% of the time.

06-12-2012 , 04:39 PM

#11

JMThomas

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 54

I guess you didnt agree with me then Tom when I said it was a ship. Although Kan0 is a bit of a donk so I might be inclined to fold now.

06-12-2012 , 08:21 PM

#12

Voe

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 262

Always shoving here v this guy with these stats and v like 95% of regs.

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