hero shoves all day

meeeh

some sort of read would be nice.

lower variance way is to obviously call.

fishy 3bet ... without a read theres no way we know what it is. It could be anything from AA to 66, KQs. I think i call, though shoving is probably ok too but more variance like Fidstar said.

im pretty happy shipping it here

i don't like the call for the fact that we play a multiway pot OOP against 2 villains with 2x pot left.
a ton of times the flop will bring overs which both of them are likely to have.
and i dont like to call on a say 8Q5 board one bet and fold to a blank on the turn.
shortly said: the hand plays pretty bad

so i try to get it HU with nice equity and i don't know, why it should be "more variance" to get it in with TT for 20bb. pretty standart imo

Disagree with this. While there isn't much left in front of us, calling can't be seen as bad, as we don't even need implied odds for playing the hand for set value.

Also the fact there isn't much in front of us, means it should be easy to gii should we hit our set.

TT is way too good to just call for setvalue.
but your right, we are still getting the odds to setmine.

another point for shoving would be that we gain 50% of our stack uncontested if both of them are folding, which is huge because we have just around 40% equity against both and something like 55-60% if called (by one)

No history mentioned there.. so a difficult spot to analyse

I would call for set mine.

hero jams

jam most of the time. that 3 bet is butter soft. some numbers on the villains would be nice

As everyone in this thread said, reads are needed specially on Mp2 and even more so on CO. I am not too worried about MP1.

That min 3 bet can be crap or monsters or anything in between read-less. but it looks more crap to me specially that there is already a caller and many players left to act. I don't think he is doing that with QQ+ unless he is a complete ******. CO flats that, now this looks a little stronger considering he has seen an EP open, a call and a small 3 bet and he does not close the action and still decides to flat. any stats? if CO is 80/0/0 lol easy Jam

If everyone is random and we have no reads, plus we will have to play the hand oop if we flat, I jam 20 BB with TT all day in this spot.

Flat is for set mine... ship is for flip.

correct?