PokerStars - $3.19+$0.31|4000/8000 Ante 800 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 23.52 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 24)
BTN: 16.56 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 11.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 87)
SB: 32.69 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 24)
BB: 17.49 BB (VPIP: 4.17, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
Hero (UTG): 22.68 BB

5 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has Q T

Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 8 9 T
BB checks, Hero bets 4.38 BB, BB raises to 15.39 BB and is all-in, fold



My image on table is tight, probably perceived as the tightist on table apart from this villain who despite being the biggest stack approaching the ft bubble and on ft he didnt use icm abuse much at all. My utg raise looks strong and he calls with great pot odds.
Now im not sure how wide hes calling range is my raise looks strong but people haven't been calling in the bb even with good pot odds. So he could have something speculative but he could have ak who knows.
The payout distribution is pretty severe. anyway i hit tp and a gssd. and ive got good pot odds to make a call of his shove.
So what you reckon I hated this hand but tank folded as just think hes range has so much equity vs me.
I think its my cbet size that i really hate. I think its just gives me to much pot odds to call with all his semi bluffs in his range. Think to make this raise you have to call but when he actually shoves it felt like calling would be minus EV vs this very tight player.
Pre i could of made it 2.2 to compress hes (or others) calling range but ive been minning and these have been getting enough folds with my tight image. Think this is my 1st utg raise on FT.

mini raising pre is fine on the flop i would of made it around 2.5bbs you get the information you need without risking much. It would be pretty hard for me to fold this.

yeah pretty much exactly what no fear said. 2x is okay pre and betting around 1/2 pot would be better in my opinion. we get the same info just cheaper and i would likely be calling here

I hated this hand when I played it, hated it more when i posted it, and hate it even more now lol.

I agree c betting as large as i did and folding with this hand is pretty bloody awful. In my defence i actually timed out as really couldn't decide. The fact timing out came as a relief maybe indicates i was heading for a fold. I agree with half pot c betting here at these stack depths.

My default c bet size is around 1/2 pot. The reason i didn't is with aa-qq i would bet more on this wet flop and be calling a shove. My thinking as it was at the time is is my actual hand is maybe not in my perceived range my utg range probably looks more weighted towards A10+ 66+ KQs.

To say this player is tight is an understatement i know my hud says 4/4 but that must of been a while ago and i don't remember it. All i can recall this player doing is open folding. So after my awful cbet I thought to my opponent a tight ( been playing taggy on the FT) opponent opens utg for the first time then full pots c bet on a wet flop. Im thinking he probably doesn't think there is a lot of FE in his shove unless im giving him to much credit and hes doing the old " i put him on AK" thinking.

I didnt want to compound my bad play pre and was trying to work out what to do. Looking at it now i probably should of called my hand just has to much equity vs his range.

So if you guys had c bet half pot would you be calling this nits shove? or is it the pot odds my large c bet has caused that means you would have to call?

why would you cbet so big? IMO in MTTs you never cbet so big no matter what board it is, your stack size is more important factor on deciding the sizing than the board. I.d cbet my standard 38%-45% here. Really not sure about the call tho. in my opinion you should probably call.

Maybe a c/c OTF? Even though I don't mind a smaller cbet, I think pot control with this flop could have been more valuable. Not sure what I would have done if V shoved though, it would be close

I like flop checks here. That's not a dry or wet board, but somewhat clumped.

Calldown lines v OESDs that don't connect on 4-straight boards are good.

See y'all later.

+1 agree with this

I hate that this keeps getting bumped. Note to self -

Never post such a badly played hand on a poker forum.

oh **** i bumped it ;(

lol