I'm mainly playing reg speed sngs and just added the
3$/45man turbos to increase volume / number of tables.

Struggling a little bit with the shoving ranges bvb,
trying to get an idea using a pushbot chart but wanted to check
if my range is way off, as the chart is telling me to push any2 basicly (if I'm not missreading it lol)

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PokerStars Game 67168983457 / Tournament
Table 438206030 5 -
Blinds : 100/200 - Ante 25.0
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8 players
[SB] Mr.Lauren90 (3650)
[BB] J.Calatraba (3375)
[1] OmarSarif (3325)
[2] v1adislav73 (3485)
[3] pedroserica (4873)
[4] msusyr24 (1350)
[5] kyuuzo-dono (2330)
[But] cyberaxs (2992)

Mr.Lauren90 :4c :Ah Initial Pot: 500

OmarSarif folds
v1adislav73 folds
pedroserica folds
msusyr24 folds
kyuuzo-dono folds
cyberaxs folds
Mr.Lauren90 folds
J.Calatraba hide cards
J.Calatraba wins 500 from the main pot

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $10,000(BB) Replayer
Hero ($227,353)
BB ($202,795)
UTG ($117,836)
UTG+1 ($160,747)
UTG+2 ($141,683)
MP1 ($5,493)
MP2 ($67,376)
CO ($82,568)
BTN ($8,720)

Dealt to Hero 2 Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

BB wins $19,000

this is a similar spot deep in a 5$ KO turbo where the chart says to push Q2o with an M <10 and even if villain is loose to ship <8M.
having 20bb in an mtt like this is a lot and I think we have better spots to ship it in than this one, even if villain is a weak-tight fish, how do you know/adjust when to correctly push as the chart says?

What is your history with villain? I'd be careful with charts at 20BB and usually go to them when I'm <12BB. In this spot, I would need to know if villain usually calls my min-raises or folds? Has he called my shoves before, and if so, what did he call with? What's my image at the table? Did I recently showdown shoving AJs or did someone catch me shoving K9o?

You need to take all of this into account when stacks are large before making any type of decision. With stacks as big as yours, I would be inclined to min-raise here, as long as you are also min-raising monster hands like QQ+, AQs+.

thanks for your feedback microdot, I'm at work so no stats but I agree that we just have to adjust this "deep". problem isch while masstabling it's always good to have a default play / not having to look at stats, thinking about it for too long.

In bvb spots atc is profitable when you have a shoving stack however I think 20bb is too deep and even though it's mathematically +ev min raising or 2.2x trying to steal is a better option.

If the villain is nitty enough to consider open shoving 20 bigs with Q2o then you're prolly better of 2.2x/fold

ya jam the first then what mm said