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.50 180-man final three, QTs in SB vs bigstack .50 180-man final three, QTs in SB vs bigstack

08-15-2011 , 01:29 PM
I played really tight at final table

BB is 21/13 over 81 hands
BTN is 23/18 over 81 hands

when i plug in this hand into sngwiz it shows very small EV difference between push and fold for BB calling ranges 6% to 30%

i have 4 options:
1)shove - basically 0EV move
2)just fold and move one - btn will be BB in next hand, big stack probably jams atc
3)complete sb and call shove, bigstack might jam atc
4)raise/fold to 2.5bb - keeps my stack healthy, does the same thing as shoving without risking my whole stack

i see good arguments for all 4 options
what do i do in this spot?

    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10286432

    BB: 146,807 (24.5 bb)
    BTN: 41,542 (6.9 bb)
    Hero (SB): 81,651 (13.6 bb)

    Preflop: (1,800) Hero is SB with T Q
    BTN folds, Hero ?




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    08-15-2011 , 02:43 PM
    i choose #1
    08-15-2011 , 02:49 PM
    I shove this. He won't be too lose, because he won't risk half of his stack, and if he folds, he can push any2 to the bb in the next rounds...
    08-15-2011 , 04:15 PM
    Quit thinking so much... Push the "I want all of my betting disks to go into the pot" button
    08-15-2011 , 05:31 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by plogrammer
    when i plug in this hand into sngwiz it shows very small EV difference between push and fold for BB calling ranges 6% to 30%
    I find this very odd. Snap shoving this all day long.
    08-16-2011 , 04:17 AM
    For me, it's a definite shove.
    08-16-2011 , 05:09 AM
    Yeah this would be a snap shove for me. Folding is far too nitty, limp-calling seems really wtf, and raise folding is super weak.

    Easy jam.
    08-16-2011 , 08:24 AM
    Yeah option 3 is very, very bad OP. I don't mind a complete if he's not to aggro, otherwise shove.
    08-16-2011 , 08:33 AM
    dont think you get exploided here alot by r/f and its certainly better than r/c (and not even close with ICM blahblah).
    if we shove we fold out some hands he'd 3bshove and i think its fine with ICM to openshove 13BB with QTs in this spot
    08-16-2011 , 09:03 AM
    Easy Shove, R/F isnt a great play, Bigstack can abuse and resteal ligth.
    08-16-2011 , 12:59 PM
    Shoving all day

          
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