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12-16-2013 , 07:35 PM

kminnik

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 101

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
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Hero (BTN): 38,797 (7.8 bb)
SB: 141,233 (28.2 bb)
BB: 89,970 (18 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7

Hero raises to 38,297 and is all-in, SB raises to 71,594, BB folds

Flop: (83,094) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (83,094) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (83,094) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21590021

Hero (BTN): 20,821 (5.2 bb)
SB: 99,993 (25 bb)
BB: 43,902 (11 bb)
MP1: 13,076 (3.3 bb)
MP2: 33,732 (8.4 bb)
MP3: 43,368 (10.8 bb)
CO: 15,108 (3.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7

4 folds, Hero raises to 20,421 and is all-in, 2 folds

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Hey! Is it still good to be so wide in these spots? It's final table, sometimes i think i should be more conservative, just because of this. Sorry for no reads the hand is old and i can't remember player image's

12-16-2013 , 11:02 PM

olioliolion

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 135

Both these shoves are terrible.

12-16-2013 , 11:21 PM

kminnik

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by olioliolion

Both these shoves are terrible.

Thanks I love sincerity

12-17-2013 , 02:16 AM

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

1. Your the small stack by a mile so it's fine to shove ATC
2. No there is a even smaller stack than you( somehow) fold

* don't let yourself get so low all the money is in 1st -3rd

12-17-2013 , 02:37 AM

olioliolion

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by striiing

1. Your the small stack by a mile so it's fine to shove ATC
2. No there is a even smaller stack than you( somehow) fold

* don't let yourself get so low all the money is in 1st -3rd

This is terrible advice. Just plug these spots into this free nash icm calculator payouts 3-way should be .47,.33,.21. If it's not an ICM spot, payout structure = 1.

12-17-2013 , 04:28 AM

snoep

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 142

It's both a clear fold:

12-17-2013 , 11:12 AM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 32,992

1st is ok
2nd is a clear fold

12-17-2013 , 03:02 PM

suprguard

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 603

Fold and fold.

12-19-2013 , 07:10 PM

L0DDENThinks

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,265

1st hand is close
2nd is an obv fold

12-20-2013 , 12:24 AM

#10

scroosko

adept

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,176

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoep

It's both a clear fold:

stuff like this is in a vacuum and takes no account of future ev with the increased stack size.

12-20-2013 , 07:29 AM

#11

BaseMetal2

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,060

I think the first is fine.
If you play the game on there is no reason for the mid stack with 18bb's to get involved against the big stack in the next 3 or 4 orbits (unless you double). The blinds are hitting you fast so you can't be too choosy and so should be willing to accept a bigger -ev here.
The second is too loose - you don't have enough fold equity vs the blinds and x2o plays so badly.

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