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2.5 180 man turbo ! you shove this versus an unknow? 2.5 180 man turbo ! you shove this versus an unknow?

03-05-2013 , 09:46 PM
Hello , i'm trying to improve my game in push or fold stage and sometimes i have so many doubts what action it's better to take.
In this specific situation what to do? I think this is a good spot to shove because of dead money in the pot.

What you think?

    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16383241

    MP3: 4,090 (4.1 bb)
    CO: 17,775 (17.8 bb)
    BTN: 9,349 (9.3 bb)
    SB: 5,979 (6 bb)
    Hero (BB): 14,311 (14.3 bb)
    UTG+1: 3,515 (3.5 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,754 (3.8 bb)
    MP1: 5,485 (5.5 bb)
    MP2: 11,562 (11.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 6
    5 folds, CO raises to 2,000, 2 folds, Hero raises to 14,211 and is all-in, CO calls 12,211

    Flop: (29,822) 4 8 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (29,822) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (29,822) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 29,822 pot
    Final Board: 4 8 5 5 J
    CO showed T T and won 29,822 (15,511 net)
    Hero showed 6 6 and lost (-14,311 net)



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    03-05-2013 , 10:21 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PAULETA_PT
    Hello , i'm trying to improve my game in push or fold stage and sometimes i have so many doubts what action it's better to take.
    In this specific situation what to do? I think this is a good spot to shove because of dead money in the pot.

    What you think?

      Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16383241

      MP3: 4,090 (4.1 bb)
      CO: 17,775 (17.8 bb)
      BTN: 9,349 (9.3 bb)
      SB: 5,979 (6 bb)
      Hero (BB): 14,311 (14.3 bb)
      UTG+1: 3,515 (3.5 bb)
      UTG+2: 3,754 (3.8 bb)
      MP1: 5,485 (5.5 bb)
      MP2: 11,562 (11.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 6
      5 folds, CO raises to 2,000, 2 folds, Hero raises to 14,211 and is all-in, CO calls 12,211

      Flop: (29,822) 4 8 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: (29,822) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (29,822) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 29,822 pot
      Final Board: 4 8 5 5 J
      CO showed T T and won 29,822 (15,511 net)
      Hero showed 6 6 and lost (-14,311 net)



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      Without knowing much about the opponent it seems a bit borderline.

      Dont know how often they will be min raise folding in that spot.

      Can you get him to fold there?

      It really is difficult to assess without knowing about your opponent.

      I think a fold here is the right play considering your stack relative to the table
      03-06-2013 , 05:53 AM
      An LP raise with stacks big enough to have fold equity. Yes, get it in.
      03-06-2013 , 06:20 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by huddlehound1
      I think a fold here is the right play considering your stack relative to the table
      Not sure what this means?

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Robinho2611
      An LP raise with stacks big enough to have fold equity. Yes, get it in.
      I think its real close, you do have FE but when he opens he is obviously prepared to the run the sb (making it unlikely, though not completely impossible, that he has complete trash). I dunno, without any reads im not real happy about it but probably shoving.
      03-06-2013 , 06:35 AM
      Meh bottom.
      03-06-2013 , 06:45 AM
      I like the ship. I think you're not likely to get it in against 77,88 since he might ship to avoid yours and you have a lot of fe
      03-06-2013 , 07:43 AM
      shove it for sure
      03-06-2013 , 08:03 AM
      The fact he ain't open shoving, makes me think he's gonna call. I think i make the nitty fold. This is obviously vs an unknown.
      03-06-2013 , 09:11 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by tomsom87
      Not sure what this means?



      I think its real close, you do have FE but when he opens he is obviously prepared to the run the sb (making it unlikely, though not completely impossible, that he has complete trash). I dunno, without any reads im not real happy about it but probably shoving.
      Was getting at the fact he is currently second in chips and about to be in the small blind.

      There are plenty of stacks at the table who he can still exploit.

      Would much rather be doing this than jamming in to the biggest stack hoping for a flip
      03-06-2013 , 09:20 AM
      Hello , thanks for all you replies...when i shoved here i was not very happy to do it , but i have fold equity and his gonna fold a great part of his range. I think here we is calling with 99+ , aj+ and are so many dead money in the pot , and except the overparis i gonna flipping most of the time we call's me. I think its a risk i dont mind to take , because is gonna fold a large % of the time.

      I started to play this STT's this month and i'm doing really well but after analysing my game , and specially when the blinds stay really high i have tendencies to fold more than i should and many times im almost eated by the blinds because or i dont have cards to play or because the villians are agressive and constantly shoving and i cant find spots to shove my stack

      In this stts the blinds grow so fast that i think sometimes i have to take the risk and put me in the same marginal situations to arrive to final table at least with a playable stack.

      What you think?

            
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