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10-12-2011 , 08:56 AM

GOHAN

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 399

I have to push here 100% by icm becouse of icm and 2 other shortstacks? so 66+, +AT, KQs ? i think 55 is very close should we fold this or not vs random opponents.

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10808362

MP: 39,433 (9.9 bb)
Hero (CO): 50,616 (12.7 bb)
BTN: 52,113 (13 bb)
SB: 87,328 (21.8 bb)
BB: 40,510 (10.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5

MP folds, Hero raises to 50,216 and is all-in, 2 folds, BB calls 36,110 and is all-in

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10-12-2011 , 09:49 AM

microdot

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 146

easy shove nh

10-12-2011 , 09:51 AM

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,060

Closeish, but def fine. nh

10-13-2011 , 06:27 AM

infusion_leo

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 258

its ok to shove first here with 55

10-13-2011 , 09:57 AM

martin_malin

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,332

no real shortstacks here, nh

10-13-2011 , 11:40 AM

itscml

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Wtf clay not close at all :/

22+ A2s+ A8o+ KJo+ QJo JTo T8s 98s 97s and any2 suited nine or higher, maybe even a little wider because these putzes will love to fold

10-13-2011 , 12:18 PM

liamof

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 350

Quote:

Originally Posted by itscml

Wtf clay not close at all :/

You seem to be ignoring ICM.

My wizzing shows this to be close, even a very marginal fold vs tight (8-9%) calling ranges. I'll usually be a little looser than wiz says due to being shorthanded, shortstacked, turbo, etc.

Close but a shove imo.

Edit: If you give them 5-7% calling ranges its almost an ATC push, very range dependant spot.

10-13-2011 , 05:02 PM

OMGClayDol

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Lol well if you say you hate wiz for 180s I guess that's the reason, if you ignore ICM then it's not close at all.

10-13-2011 , 11:28 PM

itscml

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Quote:

Originally Posted by liamof

I hear that ICM is profitable for us when it causes other people to call tighter than a gnat's *******

10-14-2011 , 10:57 AM

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poporella

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,186

where are the shortstacks, dont see any?

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