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10-13-2016 , 05:26 AM
Is this a standard shove; i was literally sick when i folded this but look at the stack sizes and vs a totally unknown player...

PokerStars - 1500/3000 Ante 300 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 27,877 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP+2: 21,021 (VPIP: 24.75, PFR: 17.89, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 101)
Hero (CO): 23,160
BTN: 53,901 (VPIP: 18.63, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 104)
SB: 40,967 (VPIP: 14.72, PFR: 12.99, 3Bet Preflop: 5.42, Hands: 1,187)
BB: 12,886 (VPIP: 15.95, PFR: 10.97, 3Bet Preflop: 4.41, Hands: 165)
UTG: 22,572 (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
UTG+1: 24,820 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.87, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 92)
MP: 42,796 (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

9 players post ante of 300, SB posts SB 1,500, BB posts BB 3,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 7,200) Hero has T T

fold, fold, MP raises to 7,500, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold,
10-13-2016 , 07:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePokerBot
Is this a standard shove; i was literally sick when i folded this but look at the stack sizes and vs a totally unknown player...

PokerStars - 1500/3000 Ante 300 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 27,877 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP+2: 21,021 (VPIP: 24.75, PFR: 17.89, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 101)
Hero (CO): 23,160
BTN: 53,901 (VPIP: 18.63, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 104)
SB: 40,967 (VPIP: 14.72, PFR: 12.99, 3Bet Preflop: 5.42, Hands: 1,187)
BB: 12,886 (VPIP: 15.95, PFR: 10.97, 3Bet Preflop: 4.41, Hands: 165)
UTG: 22,572 (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
UTG+1: 24,820 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.87, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 92)
MP: 42,796 (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

9 players post ante of 300, SB posts SB 1,500, BB posts BB 3,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 7,200) Hero has T T

fold, fold, MP raises to 7,500, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold,
Stack sizes are irrelevant at this point since there are no 1-3bb stacks. Also there is no icm pressure since you are 9handed and there is no significant pay jump. And third, since the guy open 2,5x you can assume he is a fish and i'm pretty sure your tt gonna crush his entire range.
10-13-2016 , 09:35 AM
This is a fist pump jam. As the poster above mentioned there's not much icm going on here, the real pressure as I see it is that we have like 7.5 bigs and need to double up and we can't ask for a much better hand to do it with here
10-13-2016 , 09:36 AM
+1 to @Bronislovas ICM is important but in a 180 structure when there isnt a significant shortstackers in game,r the game isnt 4-handed or 3-handed (highest pay jumps),r the stacks are pretty much even and/or your tournament equity is something worth considering you shouldnt be worrying about ICM too much. Giving the fact we have 7.5bb effective and villain is opening 2.4x with all those <10bb shorties behind him we can all safely assume he´s a fish and we have very little fold equity so im more than happy to get TTs in here with 0 fold equity, great spot to double up. On the other hand i think im shoving 88+ here in this spot.
Even asigning villain with an opening range of 55+,A8s+,ATo+,KJs+,KQ and a calling range of TT+,AJs+,AQo+ (i took the liberty to take out 99 and 88 from villains r/c range which i believe should be on his calling range but it skews our results quite a bit cuz TTs are crushing those so i just took them out to let u see this is far from a "Sick ICM" spot)...

Last edited by xPISCIVOROUSx; 10-13-2016 at 09:45 AM. Reason: ICMize it for ya

      
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