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06-25-2013 , 12:14 AM

TableFox

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 767

I didn't think too much about this hand at first but now I'm wondering if I should have played it differently

SB: - (88 Hands) 20/17 - AF: 86% - Fold SB to steal: 77% - 3bet: 12%

BB: - (69 Hands) 42/32 - AF: 67% - Fold BB to Steal: 54% - 3bet: 14%

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18073542

SB: 60,155 (10 bb)
BB: 128,165 (21.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 81,680 (13.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

Hero raises to 81,080 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls 75,080

Flop: (166,960) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (166,960) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (166,960) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Last edited by TableFox; 06-25-2013 at 12:22 AM.

06-25-2013 , 07:00 AM

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

shove is +ev

06-25-2013 , 07:33 AM

alausgerejas

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 66

Mr/folding to both may also be +ev option, but im not sure how to calculate fold equity here. So maybe someone could help with calculation.

Last edited by alausgerejas; 06-25-2013 at 07:38 AM. Reason: .

06-25-2013 , 09:03 AM

BubbleNedRum

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249

a shove is unexploitable and definetly +ev, but i think i like mr/f in this spot more if he wasnt super aggressive

06-25-2013 , 11:59 AM

FirstBlood

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 49

I think the mr/fold is -EV vs these guys. They will push with a range that you have more than enough pot odds to call profitably against, so why not just push it yourself and add some fold equity to your edge?

In other words; you played it fine.

06-25-2013 , 01:47 PM

Abe008

I ARE just biebwr
but not a mod

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 12,139

Good jam.

06-25-2013 , 04:07 PM

TableFox

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 767

Thanks for the responses, I had thought maybe I should have mr/f, but because the bb was so aggro even if I did min raise I would have to call, so shove was defo +ev.
But against tighter opposition I can mr/f here.

06-27-2013 , 05:27 AM

MasterJ009

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,386

mr/folding here would be uberterrible.
Shove> raise/call>limp>..................>raise/fold

06-28-2013 , 09:44 AM

Robinho2611

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterJ009

mr/folding here would be uberterrible.
Shove> raise/call>limp>..................>raise/fold

Couldn't disagree more, in fact it would standardly be my first choice. There are times where shoving is better than r/f though and it's all very dependent on how aggressive SB and BB are. In this (rare) case I'd choose to shove as well.

Raise/calling can't be good. When we're ahead, we've "induced" shoves from pretty hands like QJo and T9s, so hardly ahead at all, and when we're behind we're crushed.

07-07-2013 , 09:55 AM

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L0DDENThinks

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,265

I think the shove is fine, you'll have the best hand a decent percentage of the time here and the BB can definitely call with much worse hands. Raise/folding is definitely bad also.

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