Looking back at the hand i think openshoving might be a bit too wide.
Icm shoved fold in the spot
But we are going to get hit by the blinds and the table is quite tight with us having a NIT image atm
What do you guys think ?
Also side questions Does PT4 shows how many ppl were left in tourney on given hands ? I couldnt find that feature if anyone has an idea id be very thankfull

Seat 1: V1 (944 in chips) is sitting out MP+1
Seat 2: V2 (14771 in chips) HIJ
Seat 3: V3 (7129 in chips) CO
Seat 4: V4 (2511 in chips) BTN
Seat 5: V5 (4734 in chips) SB
Seat 6: V6 (10544 in chips) BB
Seat 7: V7 (13791 in chips) UTG
Seat 8: HERO (4774 in chips)UTG+1
Seat 9: V8 (4852 in chips) MP
Ante 50 - 450

V5 - sb 300 V6 -BB 600

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [5c 5s]
V8 : folds

HERO: raises 4124 to 4724 and is all-in


Thanks

Shove all day long and twice on Sundays

I doubt PT4 will record how many people are left for every single hand, and at 300/600 I doubt it matters either, it's not even close to the money (assuming it's a turbo)

Can't see any reason why shoving 55 w 8bb stack is an ICM fold.
Besides entering wrong data (i.e.calling ranges) for villains.

This

BUT
this is not always true. I often saw 300/600 a level on the bubble. I play turbos 180man and i think i've also seen 200/400 level at the bubble or near it (say~30-35 ppl)
So in some spots 55 MAY be a fold with 28 players on turbos.


and Yes, PT doesn't record how many ppl are left
BUT
PS has a tool where you can request hand details (PT records hand#) and when someone busts it sais which place he finished. And if noone busted, you can white a note on PT with how many players were left at that moment.

hope this helps.

Actually yes, Ill try to apply it and mark my hands by how close were to bubble or so becouse its kinda chaotic once i review HH day after to know if it was the bubble were in the money or what thanks both of you ofc

Fair enough. Admittedly it's been quite a while since I played a 180, before early antes. I think it was usually bb1000 or higher, with average stacks 10bb or even less, but maybe it's changed since then

But if there is still a few to go to the bubble then I still think that we have to shove

What are you using to calculate icm spots outside the FT?

True to that i went throu this spot again and i mustve leftout something earlier.

And to answer another question i do it with ICMizer 2