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12-04-2011 , 08:35 PM

battster41

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 544

Fold or call?

Poker Stars, $13.77 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11231562

CO: 79,396 (15.9 bb)
BTN: 55,746 (11.1 bb)
SB: 34,598 (6.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 100,260 (20.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

CO raises to 78,896 and is all-in, 3 folds

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12-04-2011 , 09:01 PM

Name Changed

banned

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,074

snapcall and high five monitor.

prlly something like this readless:

88+ ATs+ AJo+

12-05-2011 , 05:56 AM

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssick_one

snapcall and high five monitor.

this

12-05-2011 , 07:01 AM

XMenCypher

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,575

this isn't really interesting because there is only one answer: call. I would like to have more such spots on FTs

This would be interesting if all of them shoved in front of you :P

12-05-2011 , 12:09 PM

Johnny4F

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9

If we are not calling this, then what are we calling with ? Snappp.

12-05-2011 , 01:04 PM

islander32

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 345

I think op might be trying to over compensate for icm because of the 2 shorter stacks.
Super duper easy snap though

12-05-2011 , 01:43 PM

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

snap and close you eyes and hope it holds

12-05-2011 , 02:34 PM

ChAAnt JC

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,406

Even with bigger ICM considerations than in this case, this is still a fist-pump-snap-call. I think whoever said 88+, AJ, ATs+ was on reasonable ground. I might add 77 too.

12-05-2011 , 03:22 PM

broerstolyko

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,038

Most are wwwwwaaayyyy wider then AJo+ ATs+ 88+ here.
I see bad players doing this with 22+ Ax all the time.

12-05-2011 , 04:16 PM

#10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by broerstolyko

Most are wwwwwaaayyyy wider then AJo+ ATs+ 88+ here.
I see bad players doing this with 22+ Ax all the time.

And thats why the correct ICM range is AJo+ ATs+ 88+ here... lol

serious trollin ITT

12-05-2011 , 05:17 PM

#11

broerstolyko

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,038

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssick_one

And thats why the correct ICM range is AJo+ ATs+ 88+ here... lol

serious trollin ITT

Sorry, I misread. My apologies.

12-05-2011 , 05:47 PM

#12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by broerstolyko

Sorry, I misread. My apologies.

Your mistake may be forgiven!

12-05-2011 , 06:33 PM

#13

musaire

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 271

What do you guys think is CO's range here?

I think AK can be too much of a coin flip vs. a tight CO player here. We need around 65/35. At least 60/40.
Why would you gamble your beautiful stack 50/50 or worse against a tight.
So how can you automatically call... :/

Totally depends. Folding is not always bad.

battster41, was he tight?
wp then

12-05-2011 , 06:42 PM

#14

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I would say first look his range should be something like this :

22+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T9s,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo

so top 26 % but maybe even wide not sure. too lazy to put this into ICM atm

Last edited by Name Changed; 12-05-2011 at 06:49 PM.

12-05-2011 , 10:56 PM

#15

KRUSEKRUSEKRUSE

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 27

Even if his shoving range is exceptionally narrow here (88+ ATs+), this is still a pretty sick snap call even given ICM and what not

. And like the others said - He is most likely shoving most pairs and down to mid aces and the better broadways and stuff.

If they all shipped in front of you, it would get interesting in my opinion

12-06-2011 , 12:15 AM

#16

TVD

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,625

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssick_one

snapcall and high five monitor.

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