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08-24-2011 , 06:12 PM

Strongfold27

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 86

Is this a good shove in a vacuum?

Poker Stars, $1.36 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10431672

MP2: 8,230 (20.6 bb)
MP3: 4,825 (12.1 bb)
CO: 2,635 (6.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,940 (7.4 bb)
SB: 3,902 (9.8 bb)
BB: 3,685 (9.2 bb)
UTG+2: 5,005 (12.5 bb)
MP1: 2,850 (7.1 bb)

Preflop: (200) Hero is BTN with 6

UTG+2 raises to 1,200, 4 folds, Hero raises to 2,915 and is all-in

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Strongfold27

Last edited by TeamTrousers; 08-24-2011 at 07:17 PM. Reason: no results required

08-25-2011 , 12:17 AM

SandmanNess

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,706

I'm not shoving here. Villian is raising from decent position and also raised 3x, which normally shows more strength than just a min raise. With no reads I ship 88+.

08-25-2011 , 02:47 AM

sayakmitra

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 635

FOLD. you would get called most of the time and 66 won't do good against an UTG+2 raisers 3x range.

08-25-2011 , 05:23 AM

Mikeal_DH

the murphy of poker

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,204

yep definately fold, yes you could be up against 55, or AK,AQ suited, but the probability is not high. And if you are up vs AK,AQ suited, you are in a coinflip at the extreme best most likely.

Also you are on the Button, so you can wait for a better spot. NOw if the blinds were going to go up next hand, or very very shortly soon, then I might shove with 66,77, because if you waited, the blinds would go up, and then you would only have a 5.5 to 6.5 x BB stack.

But a 7.5 BB stack is barely big enough that you can definately wait for a better spot to open shove.

Also its much better to open shove a lesser holding, then it is to shove a hand like 66 over a raise, because if you open shove a lesser hand, you might steal the blinds and antes, which is nothing to snide at, and will help you stack a lot if you can do that 2 or 3 times.

But if you shove over a raise, the raiser is going to call quite widely, and with a small pocket like 66, that means your in a coinflip at best.

So FOLD here

08-25-2011 , 05:58 AM

marw842

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 23

this is not a final table, according to chipcounts it`s semifinal, that is quite important.

howerer still it`s imo fold, you have no fold equity against his 3bb raise

08-25-2011 , 06:03 AM

wackyradish

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 421

fold is good!

08-25-2011 , 09:12 AM

mihaibrandi

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 481

fold here, wait for a better spot

08-25-2011 , 10:58 AM

Go QQ

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 292

Its not really close, imo. Fold.

08-25-2011 , 11:38 AM

mymoneypls

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 83

I agree with the fold. Your gonna be racing at best most times in that situation.
I think AQ+ and 88+ would be what I'd get it in with.

08-25-2011 , 11:58 AM

#10

TeamTrousers

talks the talk

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,894

Title edited as this is clearly not a final table
OP edited as results not necessary

Fold

08-25-2011 , 12:13 PM

#11

kidcharisma1

adept

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,100

Fold.

08-25-2011 , 08:49 PM

#12

Gazillion

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,721

lol, I shove.

Bottom of my range though.

If I had another 2BB I'd fold.

08-26-2011 , 01:15 AM

#13

Camzace

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,351

Snapfolding this and stronger against a reg. Obv an induce given he's only 12bb deep.

Against a fish I prob get this in, flipping for dead money is fine in my books, plus he might even have a r/f range lol

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