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10-07-2015 , 08:24 AM
hi guys i played this hand recently..i found this very interesting and i ask for your opinions... first of all villain has got vpip 24 pfr=25 3bet=33,3 on 60 hands..secondlyy he is a cheap leader and he opens from utg on 5 max table..so 3bet shove??or call anw we will play AKo out of position.... thanks guysss





Hero (SB): 19,435 (12.1 bb)
BB: 8,321 (5.2 bb)
MP: 30,510 (19.1 bb)
CO: 8,892 (5.6 bb)
BTN: 342 (0.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
MP raises to 3,674, 2 folds, hero?
10-07-2015 , 10:12 AM
Call out of position with 12 BBs is really not ideal. The other thing is, that villain seems aggro and if you dont hit flop, youre gonna have a bad time. Even though there is only 3 left to be ITM, this hand is a must 3-bet allin, because youre crushing his range and AK with 12BBs is always the nuts.
10-07-2015 , 03:47 PM
Jam. His position is basically HJ as he is acting with four people after him. He's chip leader and should be wide. The stats you have collected on him at this FT show he knows this. You block half the combos of KK+

Interesting thing is why he is min raising rather than jamming? Has he been doing that on previous boards?

It would also help to know our table image. It's sick if we bust before btn but we have fold equity against him if he thinks we must have it given btn. If we pick up dead money here we will be close to even stacks and can bully the others. If we fold we enter an icm death spiral.

We can't call because we won't be able to play effectively post flop with our **** on an ICM chopping board.
10-07-2015 , 06:34 PM
20bbs or less im jamming excitedly
10-08-2015 , 01:48 AM
Questions to ask in order here are

1) How wide is he opening?

2) Roughly how wide should we jam?

3) Given our answer to 2) - how wide should he call our jam?

4) Given our answers to 1) and 3), is AK profitable? Based on that, review our answer to 2)
10-08-2015 , 06:51 AM
thanks guys and especially lektoraj who help me too muchhh with his posts gl guys
10-08-2015 , 09:42 AM
Meh - I think there are a lot of players where a min raise in this exact spot is a giant tell.

Problem is there are two possible types of tells / players. One is min raising only because he has the top of his range and is trying to induce. (These players exist and its possibly a fold vs. them even if you feel sick doing it). It doesn't take that much time to understand if a player has a preference for jamming with these stack sizes and once you know that then you only need to see the "min raise / snap call and show qq+" once or twice to assume his min raises are strong a lot, if not all of the time.

Another is min raising only because he isn't happy getting it in against your big stack but is fine with playing it vs. the others. Again - if you see a guy min raising 12-15bb more often then he is shoving (or even reasonably regularly) then clearly you have decent fold equity in this spot.

If its just a really good player with well balanced ranges then you have to shove.

If you have no real reads then its a shove also. But I wouldn't call it a double fist pump spot given the stack setup. (Or am I just a giant nit).

      
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