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11-14-2015 , 11:43 PM

Howtown

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Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds + t3 - 9 players - View hand 2817817
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MP2: t1494 M = 26.21
CO: t1484 M = 26.04
BTN: t1464 M = 25.68
SB: t1531 M = 26.86
BB: t1551 M = 27.21
UTG: t1494 M = 26.21
Hero (UTG+1): t1494 M = 26.21
UTG+2: t1494 M = 26.21
MP1: t1494 M = 26.21

Pre Flop: (t57) Hero is UTG+1 with 6

UTG calls t20, Hero raises to t80, 3 folds, CO calls t80, 1 fold, SB raises to t140, 2 folds, Hero calls t60, CO calls t60

Flop: (t487) 2

(3 players)
SB bets t40, Hero calls t40, CO raises to t1341 all in, SB folds, Hero?

11-15-2015 , 05:21 PM

nomalice

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well,i belive u have around 55%-60% vs his shoving range here ( like 22-TT , AdXx , mb 67s without diamonds but possibly not ) and you need 45% for BE call, so it's probably profitable, but he can also have some made flushes ( some fishes might shove em for protection or smt ), and our equity against that range is worse... i would've fold this,since i dont like putting 75bb stack on smt that is coinflip in basic

11-15-2015 , 09:33 PM

Nofear47

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nomalice is spot on
sigh fold

11-18-2015 , 07:31 AM

Howtown

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nomalice

I don't think he shows up with sets all that often given the over shove here, so that makes our equity better. If we also add in a bunch of over card combos with a

, even better.
I'm not too concerned about a flip this deep; we get in AKo 75bb's deep PF in likely coinflip scenarios anyway, right?

11-18-2015 , 07:45 AM

nomalice

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i dont :3

11-19-2015 , 11:28 AM

IBNash

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No reads on opps. I would call here a lot of the time at this stake. If I hit a set here, I will re-raise with 2 opps, not shove all in, I want them to call with draws and overs.

11-21-2015 , 12:57 PM

Kristofero

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I don't mind a call. I'd rather be the guy shoving AdKx into your 6d6x call though.

11-21-2015 , 01:05 PM

Nofear47

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Call pre dont raise

11-21-2015 , 05:13 PM

Kristofero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nofear47

Call pre dont raise

Raising small-mid pairs in EP in first 2 levels is pretty good. MP/LP meh.

But don't waste these early EP spots. AJ6ddx boomtriple.

Last edited by Kristofero; 11-21-2015 at 05:14 PM. Reason: Keep the raises smallish, i.e. 2.5x-3x, no more. Raise to stack ratio.

11-22-2015 , 12:26 AM

#10

Nofear47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristofero

Raising small-mid pairs in EP in first 2 levels is pretty good. MP/LP meh.

But don't waste these early EP spots. AJ6ddx boomtriple.

I think the exact opposite. I raise in LP (co/button) but, flat in EP reason being is low pp's are hard to play post if you don't hit ur 10ish% chance of hitting a set. Especially in low buyins where players are unpredictable. In these stakes you can still stack people easily with your betting lines even if the preflop action doesn't build the pot

11-22-2015 , 10:30 AM

#11

fidstar-poker

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I'm folding now.

Pre was fine. I make it 100 (though 80 is fine).

11-24-2015 , 03:40 PM

#12

Kristofero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nofear47

$1's, you minrai UTG, get 2+ flatters and maybe a 3b shove.

So setmine with a shovel. YMMV. I had that EP unease with these pairs once, but try it some.

11-29-2015 , 03:51 PM

#13

LektorAJ

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I would also just limp behind pre here and hope to play a multi-way pot. Against these players you can still get plenty of money in when you hit if they have something they like.

11-29-2015 , 04:17 PM

#14

Kristofero

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Caveat to that tho: Leading sets on flop UTG, c/c flops... Makes turn/riv actions to get more value awkward.

Both are fine tho.

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